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The ‘Missing Evidence’ In Romney’s Tax Records

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The ‘Missing Evidence’ In Romney’s Tax Records

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Harry Reid has provoked outrage among liberals as well as conservatives, who seem to believe he has violated propriety by repeating gossip about Mitt Romney’s taxes. The Senate leader says someone connected with Romney told him that the Republican candidate paid no income taxes for a period of ten years. Offended by Reid’s audacity, commentators on the right have indicted him for  “McCarthyism” while others on the left have accused him of inventing the whole story.

Evidently the chief complaint against Reid — aside from aggressiveness unbecoming a Democrat — is that he cited “an extremely credible source” who he has so far declined to name.  Some journalists have gone so far as to suggest that Reid must be lying because he won’t identify the source.

Despite all this righteous tut-tutting among the great and the good, in newspapers and magazines as well as on television, Reid’s critics simply have no way of knowing whether he is telling the truth or not. From the beginning, Reid himself admitted forthrightly that he has no way of being absolutely certain whether what he was told is factual or not, although he believes the person who said it was being truthful.

Many of Reid’s critics work for news outlets that rely on unnamed sources every day, of course, publishing assertions that range from the mundane to the outlandish. It is hard to see why an unnamed source quoted by a daily newspaper or a monthly magazine – or hidden behind a screen in a TV studio – is more credible than a person whispering in the ear of a United States Senator.

Indeed, several of the news outlets now barking at Reid have suffered their own episodes of scandalous embarrassment due to the exposure of invented sources and quotes (see Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass, etc. etc. etc.). Yet they nevertheless continue to publish quotes from such unnamed individuals. After all, where else would Reid have learned that this is acceptable conduct?

Joe Conason

A highly experienced journalist, author and editor, Joe Conason is the editor-in-chief of The National Memo, founded in July 2011. He was formerly the executive editor of the New York Observer, where he wrote a popular political column for many years. His columns are distributed by Creators Syndicate and his reporting and writing have appeared in many publications around the world, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker, The New Republic, The Nation, and Harpers. Since November 2006, he has served as editor of The Investigative Fund, a nonprofit journalism center, where he has assigned and edited dozens of award-winning articles and broadcasts. He is also the author of two New York Times bestselling books, The Hunting of the President (St. Martins Press, 2000) and Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (St. Martins Press, 2003). Currently he is working on a new book about former President Bill Clinton's life and work since leaving the White House in 2001. He is a frequent guest on radio and television, including MSNBC's Morning Joe, and lives in New York City with his wife and two children.

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  1. Dominick Vila August 6, 2012

    Reid may have gone too far, but until Mitt makes his tax returns public, like most presidential candidates do, he is fair game. If he has nothing to hide, and he has been “paying the taxes required by law” (nothing or almost nothing after using every loophole and deduction – think Rafalca – in the book), why does he refuse to make his tax records public? Mitt Romney is not a victim of vicious attacks, he is paying for his greed and ruthless behavior.

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    1. montanabill August 6, 2012

      Your statement on ‘paying for greed and ruthless behavior’, is nothing more than envy and ignorance showing through. I suspect that, in your mind, people (strike that), Republican people, can’t be successful without being greedy, ruthless, lucky or what have you. You probably don’t see Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry or Jay Rockefeller in the same light, do you?

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      1. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

        One doesn’t have to be envious or ignorant to face facts. Romney has painted himself into a box — it’s as simple as that. He has to release his tax returns, and common sense — envious or not — will tell you that there’s something very damaging to his political aspirations to be found in those returns. It’s like being caught on a chair near the cookie jar, but refusing to open your hands when asked about your suspicious position. No one is going to believe there aren’t cookie crumbs to be found there until you prove otherwise.

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        1. montanabill August 6, 2012

          Have you used the same logic on Obama”s college history?

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          1. Cynic17 August 6, 2012

            What does Obama’s college history have to do with anything? When did Presidents and presidential candidates start releasing their academic records?

            If you can’t see the difference between these two scenarios, Bill, then that’s on you.

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          2. montanabill August 6, 2012

            I would ask, “What do Mitt Romney’s old tax returns have to do with anything since the IRS is not questioning them?”. You know full well the only thing Democrats want them released for is the hope of finding some tidbit to continue to demonize Romney. And it wouldn’t make one bit of difference whether it was a legal deduction or donation. For the President, about the only history we have on him is his semi-fictional autobiographies. His college career was the biggest piece of his life prior to getting into Chicago politics, so his educational record is fair game.

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          3. Scarlet Glitterati August 6, 2012

            The IRS only questions legal/illegal. There is the ethical/Patriotic category as well. Mr. Romney is campaigning on his “business experience.” I want to know how he ran his business. How did he get $100 million in an IRA? Did he get amnesty from the IRS for his Swiss Bank Account? How much salary did he earn after he “retroactively retired?” What effective tax rate has he paid?

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          4. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Oh, so you get to decide what is ethical/Patriotic. Big money in an IRA? (not really a good idea since the Dems would like to appropriate them for another spending pot) Look up SEP-IRA. I can tell you how he ran his business: very well. Effective tax rate? The legal and required rate.

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          5. Dan August 6, 2012

            Everyone thinks his taxes are ok the IRS only looks at less than 1% of the countrys taxes so they might not hve been seen at all.

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          6. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Naive. You don’t think anyone at the White House hasn’t pushed the IRS to look into Romney’s tax returns? These are Chicago politicians.

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          7. karinursula August 6, 2012

            I would think so would be Romneys. I don’t see you asking Romney for his college grades

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          8. montanabill August 7, 2012

            I wouldn’t have any problem asking for Romney’s grades. The difference is that Obama’s career and resume are based on his education, Romney’s is not. Romney has proved that whatever education he received at BYU is was effective enough for him to become extremely successful. Whereas, so far, Obama has not proved to be much of a useful success at anything. Of his career, I am very much reminded of the movie, “Being There”. All this to-do over Romney’s tax returns is nothing more than a distraction to keep you from thinking about the 23,000,000+ unemployed and under-employed, the absolutely enormous debt growing at an ever more alarming rate, and the loss of the middle class because of the President’s anti-business policies.

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          9. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

            By all means climb to the highest rooftop and shout how Obama’s college transcripts prove that….er, well….what was that they were supposed to prove?

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          10. montanabill August 6, 2012

            About as much as Romney’s old tax returns. (that are not being questioned by the IRS)

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          11. StephenMcDonald August 6, 2012

            1st of all the IRS doesn’t release anyone’s tax returns publicly,that is between them and the individual. If there were criminal charges against Mitt levied by the IRS, then they might be made public.
            But running for POTUS all candidates have released multiple yrs. of tax returns. What makes Mitt special? He provided John McCain with 26 yrs. worth,but the American public only gets to see 2 yrs.
            The point is that Mitt enjoyed tax loopholes that middle class citizens can’t take advantage of and therefore paid a higher percentage of taxes.
            That is why he hasn’t released them. The rich pay little or no taxes at all compared to what 98% of America does.

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          12. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Are you kidding? All criminal charges are public and the White House team would certainly have them even if they weren’t.
            Here is an exercise for you if you have a tax preparation program. Give yourself a $4M income and then see just how many tax loopholes or deductions you can use. It should be an eye-opener for you. The old wives tale that the rich pay little or no taxes is also easily refuted with a little research that will show they pay an average 24% on their income while those in the average income group pay 5%. On your $4M income, I’ll bet your effective tax rate is 33% and your loop holes are zero.

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          13. old_blu August 6, 2012

            bill, I don’t question his tax returns, I think they are completely legal, I question why he don’t want us to see them.

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          14. montanabill August 7, 2012

            Pretty simple. Whether legitimate or not, any deduction he took will be demonized by the Dems. If Harry was so sure of his claim, he wouldn’t have done it on the Senate floor which protects him from legal recourse.

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          15. Lynda Wilson August 6, 2012

            I’m led to believe Mr Romney’s father must have paid for his (MittWit’s) college diploma, because the man is dumber than dirt and did nothing but pranks in school…

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          16. montanabill August 6, 2012

            I’m glad you were a classmate of his…or is he dumber than dirt because he doesn’t agree with you and was able create a very successful career in spite of it?

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          17. BDD1951 August 6, 2012

            He wants to go into Iran so badly, I want to know how many of his sons are going to go. We need to reinstate the draft and then there won’t be useless wars like Iraq.

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          18. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Did you get that from Joe Scarborough? I haven’t heard him saying a word about going to Iran.

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          19. BDD1951 August 6, 2012

            Where have you been? That was what was being discussed with his buddy in Israel.

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          20. Fern Woodfork August 6, 2012

            He A Butt Kissing and Sucker Of The Rich Man Romney Can Do No Wrong!! Damn Troll!! Not Only Iran He Got His Eyes On Russia Too Just Like Sarah Palin Dumb Ass!!!

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          21. BDD1951 August 6, 2012

            Say What????

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          22. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Post the transcript.

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          23. metrognome3830 August 6, 2012

            Oh, there’s a lot of things you haven’t heard Bill. That’s quite obvious from your posts.

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          24. montanabill August 7, 2012

            Yeah, but I like to stick with the true stuff.

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          25. metrognome3830 August 7, 2012

            Yeah, your true stuff is no more true than my true stuff. It’s all mostly opinion, innuendo and outright lies, Bill. All we can do is try to find the truth. Yours is different from mine. You think I don’t know what’s going on. I believe that you don’t know what’s going on. And that’s probably how we will be until something happens to make one or the other of us change our minds.

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          26. montanabill August 8, 2012

            Just takes a little research on other than political sites, metro.

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          27. metrognome3830 August 8, 2012

            Bill, I have researched other political sites. Left, Right, Middle, and off the wall. My opinions are my own, formed by reading material on all sides and through personal experience. I will gladly admit to leaning to the left, if I have to describe my views. I personally approach any political discourse with a great deal of skepticism, but there are still a few sources that maintain a high degree of impartiality.

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          28. montanabill August 8, 2012

            Fair enough.

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          29. TheSkalawag929 August 6, 2012

            Sarcasm and deflection do not dissuade an inquiring mind.

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          30. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Then do meaningful inquiries.

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          31. TheSkalawag929 August 6, 2012

            Montanabill you need to get out and meet other people that don’t look and think like you.

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          32. RUKIDENME August 8, 2012

            Montanabill is not allowed to leave the secured ward. He is the brightest bulb in the ward.

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          33. Pat Herold August 6, 2012

            Are you a birther too?

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          34. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Did I mention birth?

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          35. 081476 August 6, 2012

            MTBILL
            what does obama college history got to do with someone possibly lying on his FEDERAL TAXES! Taking offshore hidden accounts and then go in front of the public and lie about it? Do you have Bush college records? Do you have McCain’s, Reagan’s? Presidential candidates release tax records, never seen it as a prerequisite for college records. Or are you just trying to justify Mitt’s crooked behavior?

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          36. Marilyn Furrie August 6, 2012

            what has college history to do with taxes??????????????You want to know if he attended look at their year books. You simply do not want to believe that a black man is intelligent enough to go to college or be president. The onus of that is on YOU not on POTUS. The controversy about mitss secrecy is that he is running on his business accumen and he needs to show us that he is legitamately a great business icon he preports to be. He also needs to convince us that he is truthful and thats a big step he refuses to take .He wants blind trust.

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          37. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Other than a couple of semi-fictional autobiographies, the President’s primary history is his college career. Since much has been made of it, particularly how brilliant he is, why not make the record public. And why did you inject race?
            The IRS has no beef with Romney’s tax returns, so why should you? You wouldn’t understand them even if you had them in your hands. Here’s a clue on why he might be a good businessman: $250 million and the tax returns he has released.

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          38. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

            Because questioning Obama’s college transcripts is a birther tactic — nothing more.

            The IRS will never have the resources to scrutinize Romney’s returns like they would be if they were released, and you know it. Even if something is legal, it may cause real issues for his election campaign — such as finding enough loopholes to pay zero. While legal in a strict sense, the American public would find it distasteful for a man who makes that much money to pay a lower tax rate than the poorest of the working class. There are many of these potential ‘gotchas’ and I’m willing to bet his returns are chock full of them.

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          39. montanabill August 6, 2012

            That is exactly what the Democrats are looking for, something, even if its legal, to go tsk-tsk about. You know full well, the White House has already asked experts in the IRS to fine tooth comb Romney’s returns for anything that could be questioned. So like Obama’s birth certificate, this is a witch hunt. Hey, but maybe we could find something in Obama’s college records, if he would release them.
            The poorest (and even not so poor) working class pay no income taxes, so I doubt Romney’s rate is below theirs. Remember my Buffett example. I noticed that you not only didn’t have a problem with him fighting for a lower tax bill, but you also missed what will happen to his current and future tax bills as the result of the deductions he will get for donating to the Gates foundation. An even lower tax rate.
            I guess that’s all right because he’s Obama’s poster boy for ‘the rich aren’t paying their fair share’.

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          40. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

            Of course Democrats are looking at Romney’s returns — that’s to be expected. The bigger issue, though, is what the American public will think about whatever may be in those returns. Perhaps his returns will endear him to the working class — but somehow I doubt it. It is customary to release multiple years of tax returns when running for the highest job in the land, but Mitt Romney is a special case as well: He has repeatedly attacked political opponents for not releasing their returns — even their spouses returns. He has been caught in compromising situations with respect to this before. As one of the wealthiest men to ever run for the office of President, hiding his returns does not look good.

            Your claim that Buffett is ‘fighting for a lower tax bill’ is hogwash. As far as I can tell he’s just trying to get it straightened out. And none of this matters one whoop when it comes to Romney — or you, for that matter. Neither Romney nor you get any breaks just because Buffett has issues — it’s irrelevant. That you would call Obama the ‘poster boy’ for ‘the rich aren’t paying their fair share’ is notable since it may be exactly what gets Obama re-elected. The middle class is tired of seeing their wealth diminish while watching the top 1% rocket upward. That’s a recipe for real unrest, and if you had better sense you’d realize that if things aren’t balanced out now there may come a REAL day of reckoning (Think 100% tax brackets). Greed eventually backfires when taken too far.

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          41. montanabill August 7, 2012

            The problem is, only 1% of the public would even begin to understand his returns. Therefore, all the d. masses know is sound bites they hear.
            Look at history. It is NOT customary to release tax years for years prior to assuming the Presidency. Most did it only during the years of their Presidency.
            If you actually subscribe to the theory that Buffett is only trying to ‘straighten it out’, then you are truly naive.
            Now, tell me why the middle class is seeing their wealth diminish. Do you really think it is because those above them aren’t paying enough taxes? Or could it be that this President is so anti-business that businesses are hunkering down, waiting for the nightmare to be over. Layoffs, consolidating resources and holding capital for future expansion…are these things going on? Which class does that impact?
            Which party wins if there is real unrest? Would they work to foment it?
            You need to understand, Whut, that the middle class is the product of American business, not American government. If you really want to see the middle rise, then you need to work to get American business moving again.
            Finally, use a little imagination. Pretend that you have created a business that needs capital to grow. The best and cheapest way to get that capital is through your own sales. Now how would you feel about 100% tax rates?

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          42. WhutHeSaid August 8, 2012

            The ‘masses’ don’t have to understand the intricacies of the returns. All they need is for Romney to hide/not hide them — that’s going to be his downfall. The general public isn’t quite as stupid as you seem to think, and many of them are CPAs and tax attorneys — in case you didn’t know.

            You really need to get off your Buffett kick. Buffett isn’t running for President. Buffett’s returns have nothing whatever to do with Romney’s returns. Such an obvious diversion is becoming boring.

            If you think that anyone is going to believe that decades of middle class wealth erosion is the retroactive result of 3 years of the Obama administration’s policies, then you need to quit smoking that wacky weed before posting. The Bush/Cheney years blew a MASSIVE hole in the budget, and started this latest experiment in ‘trickle-down’ economics. Tax cuts for the wealthy (read: job creators) didn’t work for 10 years, so why should we expect it to work now?

            You need to understand that the US Government IS the people, or at least it’s supposed to be. This country is not a plutocracy despite the fact that you obviously wish it was. This country does not exist to make money — it’s not a business. You do not get a vote per dollar. I know that the Koch Brothers and their wannabes (such as yourself) are trying their level best to head in this direction, but I believe that it’s going to fail in a big way. Why? Because in order to get support for this plot the plutocrats have had to get into bed with the most sordid, nutty, reckless political characters in the history of the GOP. They aren’t satisfied to push that old whopper about ‘small business’ needing tax breaks without attacking women’s rights, minorities, the youth, and a host of other social issues that are important to real people.

            You never answered whether you consider yourself a small business. That’s because if you told the truth, your ‘taxes on the wealthy will hurt small businesses’ lie would dry up and blow away. Small businesses are NOT billionaires or millionaires, nor are they multinational or even multi-state conglomerates. Small businesses are largely middle class people who have a little capital to invest in a startup company. They aren’t the ones funding these super PACs that are pushing the nutty Tea Party characters. That’s people like the Koch Brothers. Sure, some small businesses support GOP candidates, but just as many support Democratic ones. Neither party has been particularly helpful to small business.

            Do you think that you’re the first greedy businessman to come out and tell whoppers to attempt to convince the public about the horrible hardships suffered by the wealthy? NOT. You need to remember how you got started — the REAL way — not your pipe-dream about a superior intellect and a can of magic-business-beans. Start where you had the fortune to happen to live in the wealthiest country on earth. It didn’t get that way just by virtue of business people running amok. The general public (read: Government) did and does have a lot to do with it. You wouldn’t be out here with your plaintive wails about how taxing small business (which you aren’t anyway) will destroy the country if it didn’t.

            At the end of the day, after all of your whoppers and convoluted excuses, you still just come off as a greedy ingrate. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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          43. montanabill August 8, 2012

            The DNC must really laugh when they see their smoke taken seriously.

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          44. msm859 August 6, 2012

            By your definition Al Capone was a good businessman. Would you vote for him to be president? Would you vote for Romney if a couple years ago he took the amnesty program for failing to pay taxes on foreign accounts? Everyone says the tax code needs reforming, do you want to elect the fox to guard the hen house? This all has Nothing to do with envy. Warren Buffet says taxes should be raised on the rich, Romney says they should be lowered. If everyone saw his tax returns we would all know how ludicrous his position is. How many American jobs has Romney created the last 10 years with his special tax treatment?

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          45. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Just a little sobering msm859. Buffett is a smart businessman. He has a tax problem he has been fighting with the IRS. So he goes to Obama and tells him he’ll help demonize the rich with his secretary story. Instant friend of Obama, and oh by the way friend, can you help me with this IRS business? He also knows full well that the Republican controlled House is not going to raise his taxes with the economy in its current shambles. In the meantime, while complaining he isn’t paying enough taxes, he donates billions to the Gates Foundation. Now he could have simply sent that money to government, but by donating to a charitable cause, he’ll have a whopping deduction for years. So he’ll pay an even lower rate.
            Al Capone never convinced the Feds he filed a correct return. So far, I haven’t heard that the IRS has a problem with Romney, so maybe you are just listening to too much petty demonization. The number of jobs Romney created less the jobs lost, far exceed anything the President is taking credit for. (He always leaves out the ‘lost’ category)
            One final thought: the tax code doesn’t need reforming. It needs thrown out and a far simpler code enacted without special interest deductions for everything under the sun.

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          46. karinursula August 6, 2012

            you have not answered the question. Why only Presidents Obama college transcripts, but
            not the other Presidents?

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          47. concreteblue August 6, 2012

            They weren’t black, for starters…

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          48. montanabill August 7, 2012

            I have answered it in other posts, but here’s why: Obama’s career is based on his college years. He has not achieved much during his professional years except getting elected. His achievements in any of those elected positions are negligible, so it opens the door to the question, was he really a great student that simply can’t translate the education to the real world, or was he such a good speaker that he bluffed his way through. History is full of characters who’s speaking abilities carried them to great heights but couldn’t translate into substantive success. Romney’s education at BYU would be an issue, if he hadn’t already proved that he can achieve success at many levels.

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          49. turnipgreens August 6, 2012

            We gotta go there again? Won’t you people let this man have his dues? Face it, there are black people that are smart too.

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          50. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Who said anything about race? That appears to be your hangup.

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          51. sensalik August 6, 2012

            yes

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          52. montanabill August 6, 2012

            I’m chuckling!

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          53. sensalik August 6, 2012

            Those passionate about the wrong things for the wrong reasons usually do. It’s a nervous reaction.

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          54. montanabill August 6, 2012

            You are right! I am nervous about the empty suit winning the White House again and at least four more years of economic disaster with 23 million people remaining out of work. We can’t keep unemployment benefits going that long and we can’t put all those people on Social Security disability.

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          55. sensalik August 6, 2012

            No we can not , but we can put them to work if the GOP would pass the President’s job bill.

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          56. montanabill August 6, 2012

            The President doesn’t have a ‘jobs bill’ and you know it. It just another ‘let’s go deeper in debt’ bill. Business creates jobs, not throwing money at politicians favorite boondoggles.

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          57. sensalik August 7, 2012

            You can’t argue truth away, you may not like it but it always prevail.

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          58. montanabill August 7, 2012

            Since I appear to be missing something, how about you telling me just how the President’s ‘Jobs Bill’ will create permanent, good paying jobs? Your gloss over answer is too easy. Let’s hear some real details.

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          59. sensalik August 7, 2012

            You are not missing anything, you know what the facts are and you know your motives for ignoring them.

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          60. montanabill August 8, 2012

            Ducked the question again. How can I learn if you won’t supply the answers?

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          61. Jacqui August 6, 2012

            mtbill…give it up. you won’t win as your arguments are mt (get it?)

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          62. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Couldn’t refute thought, could you?

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          63. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Couldn’t refute it though, could you?

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          64. karinursula August 6, 2012

            tell us about Romneys plans for the future, how will he be creating jobs? He has not said. Only that he wants the middle class to pay more taxes but not his billionaires buddies.

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          65. montanabill August 7, 2012

            Actually, it was Obama that said Romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class, not Romney. Romney has said he doesn’t want to raise anyone’s taxes.

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          66. metrognome3830 August 6, 2012

            And so is everyone who reads your posts, Bill.

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          67. BDD1951 August 6, 2012

            The presidents college history is not the issue. I know that you radical right wingers are trying to find anything you can, but his college history is unimportant at this point. He is a brilliant man who did well in college. I’d like to see Romney’s college history. He probably bought his degrees.

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          68. montanabill August 6, 2012

            It is not an issue with you, but it is for me. I want to know if he told the truth. It is a major part, supposedly, of why he is qualified to be President. Romney went to college, but he has had an actual career. A very successful one.

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          69. 081476 August 6, 2012

            Then why not ask Mitt for his scripts? They thought Lil Bush was a successful business man when he bought into the Texas Rangers…NOT! others were doing the work…I don’t think Mitt “built it all by himself without help from others” or did he make every decision by himself. If so, then I guess he’s responsible for all the layoffs and closures Bain created. Which one do you want to chose?

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          70. montanabill August 6, 2012

            You are right. I never once thought of Bush as a good businessman. On the other hand, Gore and Kerry couldn’t make that claim either. You seem to be fixated on layoffs and closures under Bain when Romney was there. How about comparing his actual jobs created less jobs lost with the President’s jobs created less jobs lost? Have you looked into how layoffs saved jobs because the company was saved stories?

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          71. metrognome3830 August 6, 2012

            Ya know, Bill, it is no sin to be ignorant. But to be willfully ignorant . . . there is something wrong with that. Let’s see your college transcripts. Or high school . . . or whatever level your formal education ended.

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          72. montanabill August 7, 2012

            I’d have no problem releasing my transcripts. I wasn’t the best student but did alright in HS. I attended 5 colleges over 8 years (3 private, 2 public, all major universities), took a wide range of subjects just to get a well rounded education, have a B.S. in math/physics and an M.S. in Engineering. Completed classwork for a PhD in Engineering. Wouldn’t live on campus teaching undergrads while I supposedly worked on a thesis that was already written. (had a wife and 2 kids to feed) Taught graduate school in computer science for a couple of years at a major university (it was a second job). Worked to pay for my own education. No parental help, no government loans, no scholarships. That’s why it took so long. I’ve had training in economics, broadcasting, art, religion, U.S. history, world history and, of course, lots of math and science. Now about your comment….

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          73. metrognome3830 August 7, 2012

            That’s impressive Bill, but I wouldn’t vote for you for president. Sorry. And it has nothing to do with your transcripts. It has to do with your continually blabbering away about the “birther” conspiracy and your, by now totally debunked, theories on how Obama got his education and whether his record at university was as good as claimed, or if he attended under another name, or if he is using the Social Security # of a deceased person, etc., etc. That, Bill is totally unworthy of your educational background. Get on with some real issues, Bill.

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          74. montanabill August 8, 2012

            Not running for President and you need to learn to read a little closer, nowhere have I weighed in on the birther issue. But I’m afraid the education issue is alive and well. How why does a former self-admitted stoner who somehow got into Occidental and then Columbia finally Harvard? These are expensive schools that should require an exceptional record, unless you list yourself as a ‘foreign exchange student’. Why the secrecy?

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          75. metrognome3830 August 8, 2012

            Maybe not specifically, Bill, but it’s all in the claims you are referring to. I suspect you were probably without sin in high school, so it makes it difficult to understand that someone who goofed off in high school could straignten out and become successful. I’m not sure what you are implying, Bill, but there is evidence that he attended these schools. I know there are “bloggers” and anonymous e-mailers out there claiming no one ever saw or heard of him, but that’s not true. There are claims that he entered as a foreign exchange student but Occidental didn’t have a program for foreign exchange students. At Columbia, people did know him and have said so. As for getting into Harvard Law School it would have been impossible to do without an undergraduate degree from Columbia and he would have had to have acceptable grades, I would suspect. Bill, all this crap has been resurrected because Romney is catching heat over his tax returns. I personally just couldn’t care one whit less if Romney produces more tax returns. In fact, I would not have cared if he ever produced any. But it has become a tradition, especially for presidential candidates to do so. So, if Mitt doesn’t want to, fine with me. But as we both know, he is going to catch heat for it. So Mitt has a choice. Produce more tax returns or not. I’m sure he is well aware of the repercussions that will occur either way. It’s all deflections and distractions, Bill and not worthy of any lengthy discussion.

            By the way, I was a goof-off in high school (as I’m sure you already suspected) but I went on to be a productive member of society. I probably could have run for president if I had wanted to. I got married, bought 6 homes over my lifetime (so far), raised a family, have grandkids and am retired and living in an upper middle class retirement community. Not bad for a high school goof-off. It can happen.

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          76. montanabill August 8, 2012

            metro, I’ve posted my history here before. I grew up in a very poor family, on a dirt street on the wrong side of town. I’ve overcome polio and cancer. My first job was selling papers on the street at age 10. My classmates will tell you I was certainly not without sin in high school, but, while I did have a pretty good transcript, close to an A student, it was not enough to get me into the colleges that I really wanted to attend. Nor did I have any money to afford any more initially than a state school. No family money, no scholarships, no government loans. It was work at construction jobs during the summer and work from 7-midnight while in school, dropping out occasionally to rebuild the finances. It took 4 colleges, 8 years to finish my B.S. and 1 more college for my graduate degree and subsequent post-grad work. I had semesters with 3.8 averages and semesters with 0.7 averages (21 engineering hours while working an 8 hour day, a little foolhardy) So, it is in that light that I wonder how the President managed to get into colleges I could only dream about.
            The reality of the tax return releases is that most Presidents only released them during their time in office, so it is not a tradition to release many prior years.
            I don’t think Obama is upset about the distractions. It keeps people from really examining his performance, and especially his performance compared to his 2008 campaign rhetoric and promises.
            He tends to remind me of a guy I met when working for a large aerospace company. This guy was a talker and had management convinced that he was the smartest thing going, a visionary and truly skilled at design and development. A few minutes after I met him, I realized he was a complete phoney, but my superiors only thought I was jealous. Then, one day at a large meeting that included several of my supervisors, he began to brag about his Master’s degree. Unfortunately for him, he claimed he got it from the university where I got mine. Upon hearing his claims, I told him that was where I graduated and started asking him about his professors and the classes.
            Cornered, he admitted that he really hadn’t gone there and really didn’t have a M.S. He was gone the next day. I ran into him again a few years later. He was a making big money as a consultant on the belt way. Could that guy talk a good game!

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          77. RUKIDENME August 8, 2012

            Stay angry bill, stay angry… I think big brother is watching, be careful bill. They r coming with a big butterfly net for u bill.

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          78. RUKIDENME August 8, 2012

            Obviously you did not learn any critical thinking skills. I’m sure you think you did not get any breaks or assistance along the way. We can all see why your so pompous and have no compassion. May you sow what you seed. Get some help before life passes you by.

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          79. montanabill August 10, 2012

            In case you haven’t noticed, life didn’t pass me by. I’ve lived the American dream because I believed it could be done.

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          80. RUKIDENME August 10, 2012

            I’ve noticed that you have beat your own chest as to how much money you have made and your education. Next you will tell us how you gave birth to your children.

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          81. montanabill August 10, 2012

            I use my story simply because way too many people think the deck is stacked against them, that it is somebody else’s fault that they don’t have what they want and that they need government help to live. Sure some people have it easier and some have it worse and life will always deal setbacks, but mostly everyone’s position is the direct result of their own decisions and determination. There are people born with handicaps that can’t be overcome, people who have accidents and people who get serious illness that severely impact there lives, but that is not the majority of us. It is a very small percentage of the population and those people deserve compassion and whatever help they need. The rest, not so much.

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          82. RUKIDENME August 10, 2012

            I commend you for your civility. The government is only successful if it protects and assists it’s most needy citizens. By the way, I have been retired Line of Duty Disability as a Police Sgt. for 8 1/2 years. I am in a power wheelchair and receive a County pension that I paid 10% of my income for over 20 years. The counties retirement system is funded by members contributions. No charity or government funds. I came from the poor side of town, many of my friends died as a result of drugs (O.D.’s, Suicides, Car accidents). I worked in a factory, joined the force, put myself through college while a COP and father of 2. My wife and I worked opposites (I worked 12-8 and she worked days part time).
            No regrets, I saw the scummiest of people and have never lost faith that most people are decent and hard working. Of course there are people that abuse the system (I dealt with them) but that is small percentage. Many more need assistance; medical, financial, housing, food, education. Most of them are to proud to take advantage of the services available to them. And this was a fairly affluent community.

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          83. montanabill August 10, 2012

            I certainly commend you for your service to your community and I”m sorry to hear that you received a disability from it. I, too, came from the poor side of town and was determined to get out of that life. I certainly understand people who are too proud and simply too stubborn to take government assistance. Been there, done that.
            A couple of friends of mine are retired NYPD. Fortunately, they finished with their health and mental states intact.
            Unfortunately, in many neighborhoods in my city, government assistance is a way of life and too many are proud of it. Remember in the 40’s and 50′ and even the 60’s, really overweight people were kind of a rarity, especially poor people. I’m not sure what some people are buying with their food stamps, but it sure must have a lot of calories.

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          84. RUKIDENME August 10, 2012

            Unfortunately the poor and less educated tend to buy fast food such as McDonald’s and this food tends to much cheaper then healthy eats. There is certain portion of families that are on welfare for generations, I did grow up with a few of those. But as a COP in a suburban area I saw many who needed it. I did see many families paying their welfare checks to the couple of dive motels that preyed on them. Families w/o the resources to pay a security deposits for real housing. I attempted to get the state to convert military base housing (closed bases) to housing for these families. Also there is an large amount of shuttered housing at state mental health facilities available. There are answers.

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          85. montanabill August 11, 2012

            I agree. We have just had this flap about Obama moving work requirement for the Welfare Relief Act to the states. According to section 407 of that bill, that action is, in effect, the Federal government waving it’s responsibility and is illegal. But, regardless, when that act was passed, it immediately resulted in the loss of half the people getting welfare under that act because if they had to work, they just as well get a job. It seems to me that we have these perpetual ‘training’ and ‘education’ programs that are complete failures, simply another means of continuing welfare without actually working. Maybe the President could attack his infrastructure problems by using those who are capable of working and doing something about the tremendous fraud occurring with Social Security Disability getting many of those people back to work.

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          86. RUKIDENME August 11, 2012

            Bill, The states administer the welfare money. They can make certain requirements, such as not allowing food stamps being used for booze and cigarettes. When Romney was Governor of Massachusetts he sought the same waiver the President is granting now. Not spin, I lived in New England at the time and it was well reported. The states receive federal dollars and then administer the money. They do have some discretion. I would rather see the Billionaire’s get prosecuted. There is a certain money mogul that receives government tax dollars to maintain a shipyard so that in case of war the yard can build US warships. The only problem is the supposed shipyard couldn’t dock a boat let alone build a ship. And for this he receives millions of tax dollars a year. Read the book, “Free Lunch”.

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          87. RUKIDENME August 8, 2012

            Explain what his career was? He made a lot of money, buying companies, gutting some and then reselling them. No matter the cost to workers and taxpayer’s.

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          88. montanabill August 10, 2012

            That’s narrative the DNC would like you to believe. Do your own research on Bain Capital and Romney’s career or simply stay ignorant.

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          89. RUKIDENME August 10, 2012

            I’m “ignorant” because I don’t agree with you. Then you have paid me the ultimate compliment. I have done my own research, check out Ampad.

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          90. Scarlet Glitterati August 6, 2012

            It’s time to let go of the college history meme. What relevance could it have now? President Obama was an IL State Senator as well as a U.S. Senator. Each and every vote is public record. He has been President for 3.5 years. That record is far more relevant than anything from college. Considering he graduated from Harvard Magna Cum Laude and was Editor of the Law Review, it is safe to assume that his transcript looks better than mine. If we were to look BACK, we might assume Mr. Romney is a moderate Republican, but his current statements align him much closer to the tea party.

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          91. montanabill August 6, 2012

            His record as a state senator and U.S. Senator were far from convincing. And I would have to say that after 3.5 years of being President, he is having a hard time handling the requirements of the office. Your point about relevance? I would say the same about Romney’s old tax returns. Since they aren’t in question by the IRS, why are they pertinent?

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          92. old_blu August 6, 2012

            “why are they pertinent?” When I was raising my kid everytime he was late bringing home his report card he was hiding something, I suspect Romney is doing the same thing.

            (BTW, I enjoy reading your comments)

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          93. montanabill August 6, 2012

            I reiterate, if they are not important to the people who’s job it is to make sure they are correct and that the right tax was paid, then why are they important to you?
            And speaking of kids who didn’t want to show his report card…..

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          94. Dominick Vila August 6, 2012

            Bill, every presidential candidate before Mitt Romney understood that making their tax returns public was pertinent and had no problem making them public. They understood that demonstrating their honesty was an essential qualification to be considered a viable candidate, and they accepted it without hesitation. I suspect that Mitt Romney did not do anything illegal, but if I was a gambling man I would bet he used every loophole and deduction imaginable to avoid paying his fair share of taxes. I also believe that the GOP strategists concluded that after months of demonizing the 49% that do not pay taxes they would look like a bunch of hypocrites if it turns out that their candidate was one of the 49%.

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          95. montanabill August 7, 2012

            Dominic, that is not exactly true. For example, none of Roosevelt’s tax returns were made public until after his death. Gerald Ford did not release his. John Kerry released only his tax returns, but basically, he lives off of his wife’s fortune and she did not release hers. Also, a number of them only released a few years and only during the years of their Presidencies, George H.W. Bush, Jimmie Carter and Richard Nixon. Al Gore only released his taxes during the years he served at V.P.
            Everyone uses every loophole and deduction they can find, but if you are someone who is in the 35% range, then you know first hand just how hard it is to get a deduction. About the only things that come into play are the Standard Deduction and charitable donations. It is possible that Romney could have other companies besides Bain (I haven’t heard of any) that had losses that could offset Bain’s profit, otherwise, the famous fictional loopholes and deductions the rich get are the stuff of myths.

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          96. Scarlet Glitterati August 6, 2012

            It’s time to let go of the college transcripts meme. President Obama was an IL State Senator as well as a U.S. Senator. Every vote he made is public. He has been President for 3.5 years. It seems that record would serve to help you understand his positions on the issues. Since the FACTS show that he earned a J.D. from Harvard, Magna Cum Laude and was editor of the Law Review, I can figure his transcript looks much better than mine. Has Mr. Romney released his, and is now calling on Mr. Obama to release his as well? Mr. Romney is using his “business experience” as a centerpiece of his campaign. I would like to know how he ran his business. How did he get $100 million into an IRA? Did he get Amnesty from the IRS for his Swiss Bank Account? Why are some of the 2010 forms regarding foreign investments, missing? How much salary did he earn after he “retroactively retired” from Bain. What effective tax rate has he paid over the last ten years. If you were to look BACK in time, you might think Romney was a moderate Republican, but his current statements sound more like the Tea Party. If you are in possession of the evidence and you refuse to give it up the presumption of wrong doing is on you.

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          97. montanabill August 6, 2012

            The Dems claim Romney is keeping secrets, so tit-for-tat because Obama is keeping secrets. Hasn’t the question ever crossed your mind about how a poor kid from Hawaii could get into such prestigious colleges? I’ve known valedictorians who couldn’t get those doors opened.
            How does one get large sums into an IRA? It’s called SEP. Look it up. Why would he need amnesty from the IRS if the money in the account is either after tax U.S. earned money or money earned from overseas ventures? Neither is illegal or suspicious. Evidence is something needed if you are charged with a crime. It is not needed to refute slander and mysterious informers.

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          98. Ohio_Voter August 6, 2012

            Romney is a Great Citizen. I believe he was working hard to be successful. I am proud of his success and that also motivates me to be a successful man. But, when a citizen is running for public office, especially for the highest office in the world, NOTHING has to be hidden. That makes others think you are dishonest. To show you will be a President with transparency, you MUST release your tax return for at least 10 years like ex-Vice-President Dick Cheney did when he was running for office. Romney, if you are serious about your candidacy, your need to satisfy voters’ requirements. PERIOD.

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          99. montanabill August 6, 2012

            As long as the IRS has no problems with his tax returns, then frankly, they don’t have a thing to do with running for the Presidency. Surely, if you demand a transparent person for the White House, how could you ever vote for Obama?
            I’m also willing to bet the average voter doesn’t give a hoot about Romney’s old tax returns. Most of them don’t even know who Biden is.

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          100. 081476 August 6, 2012

            MTBILL
            what does obama college history got to do with someone possibly cheating on his FEDERAL TAXES! Taking offshore hidden accounts and then go in front of the public and lie about it? Do you have Bush college records? Do you have McCain’s, Reagan’s? Presidential candidates release tax records, never seen it as a prerequisite for college records. Or are you just trying to justify Mitt’s crooked behavior?

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          101. montanabill August 6, 2012

            If you have evidence that Romney cheated on his taxes, by all means, report him to the IRS. The Dems will love you and you could make a nice bit of change. But you know better. You know the White House has had the IRS comb through Romney’s old tax returns and if anything was really there, they would be all over it. What they really want is to find some item or deduction they can go tsk-tsk over and keep everyone’s mind off of the staggering unemployment, enormous debt and scary weakening of our country.

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          102. nana4gj August 6, 2012

            This is such a lame comparison. Some Presidents never went to college and made fine Presidents. But a lying, scheming, tax evader who harmed the economy in his “business career”, invests abroad, and has amassed a personal fortune at everyone else’s expense, is not an admirable person and may even be a crook. College transcripts and tax records are not equitable. Romney will have to release his long form birth certificate, his college transcripts, AND his tax records.

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          103. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Serious accusation. I assume you have the proof, but of course you don’t. Frankly, that is simply a rant and you have no idea how Bain got the money it invested, how they invested it or the details of any one of the projects.

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          104. Raoul August 6, 2012

            Is Obama skin more black (bad) or more white(good). There is a difference between college history and paying taxes or not.

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          105. montanabill August 6, 2012

            You are right there is a difference, however, we are talking about keeping records from the public, not crimes. Not paying taxes is a crime and if you know anything factual, you should report it, otherwise, you are a rumor monger.

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          106. claudem August 6, 2012

            you like willard cannot stay on subject,magic tricks are not reality something cant spin….sorry bout that

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          107. montanabill August 6, 2012

            Between this post and your last one, I suspect you live in a state where they have medical marijuana.

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          108. Dominick Vila August 6, 2012

            Barack Obama, a man of humble background, graduated from Columbia University and from Harvard Law School, where he earned some of the highest honors in that prestigious institution. Are you planning to ask Romney to make his college record public? For that matter, did you ask McCain to make his record at the Bethesda Naval Academy public? If you didn’t, you missed the chance to find out that he finished second from the bottom, thanks to his Dad who was a highly regarded admiral. To my knowledge, no presidential candidate has ever made his college record public, why is Obama being singled out? Are you using the same logic employed by the birthers? If yes, why didn’t you ask McCain to produce his Panamanian birth certificate? College records have never been an issue in a presidential race, tax returns are a reflection of personal responsibility and – to a degree – civic responsibility. Proof of citizenship, by birth, is a constitutional requirement, which President Obama satisfied. Why was that requirement ignored when John McCain ran for President? I realize the Canal Zone was being administered by the USA when he was born there, but that does not change the fact that he was not born in the USA.

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          109. montanabill August 6, 2012

            I would suggest that your knowledge of who allowed access to their school records is faulty. Exactly how did the man from ‘a humble background’ get into these prestigious schools? There are many with extremely good transcripts and better connections that cannot get in. The reason it is pertinent is because little is known of Obama except for his own semi-fictional autobiographies that don’t exactly paint a sterling picture of him. He did not distinguish himself as either a state senator or U.S. Senator. We are to understand that he received honors, but why is the path so secret that he doesn’t want it known?

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          110. RUKIDENME August 8, 2012

            He (Obama) is smart. Obviously u don’t get that.

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          111. montanabill August 10, 2012

            He didn’t send me the memo.

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          112. RUKIDENME August 10, 2012

            Why would the President send you a memo?

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        2. Howard August 6, 2012

          The problems of this country do not stem from Romneys Tax return that is just a false argument put forward by the Obama criminal regime in order to change the subject.Its no accident that Reid spewed out these lies on the senate floor (where he is protected from law suits) ,if he said it anywhere else he would be guilty of malicious slander
          If its openness transparency that is in-question then I say Romney should only release more records when Obama does the following
          Unseal his college records from Columbia and Harvard and also how did he pay for the schooling

          Unseal his pass port records
          Unseal his Social Security records
          The problems of this country do not stem from Romneys Tax returns

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          1. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

            You sound like one of those nutty birthers. Do you every record yourself and play it back? Now I know that Obama is black and you hate it, but really — you just have to deal.

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        3. ococoob August 6, 2012

          I agree. It’s about integrity and CHARACTER here.

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      2. claudem August 6, 2012

        curt cobain is good example!!

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      3. TheSkalawag929 August 6, 2012

        Montanabill your attempt to lay down covering fire for Mr. Romney is futile. He keeps sticking his head and making himself a target.
        You may suspect anything you wish but that doesn’t make it fact. No one is saying that republicans can’t be successful without being greedy, ruthless, lucky or what have you. Speaking for myself I see all successful people as just that successful unless there is evidence that says otherwise.
        So stop playing the victim. It doesn’t go well with the Montana independent, free spirit, self sufficent persona the rest of the country has come to expect.

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        1. montanabill August 6, 2012

          To the contrary, many of the posts here say exactly that. In fact, I would have to say that the majority of posters here believe that the only way a person can become successful is to: 1) inherit it, 2) be lucky, 3) take advantage of other people, or 4) cheat.

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          1. TheSkalawag929 August 6, 2012

            How did you become so cynical?
            Being right is not dependent on numbers. Simply because a large number of people or a majority of people believe a thing to be true does not automatically make it true.
            There was a time when the majority of people believed that the sun revolved around the earth and that the earth was flat or that one person had the right to own another person. They were wrong.
            My question to you is do you believe that the four ways that you listed are the only way a person can be successful? If you do then you don’t believe in the American way or the American Dream.

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          2. montanabill August 7, 2012

            My point exactly, Skalaway! I was summarizing the comments made to me almost everyday. Of course, I don’t believe any of those points are the way to success, but apparently a great many who read the National Memo do. Pity.

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          3. TheSkalawag929 August 7, 2012

            You’re right it is a pity.

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      4. Dominick Vila August 6, 2012

        I admire people like Gates, who created a business from nothing, created thousands of jobs, became one of the richest men in the world, and then engaged in altruistic causes giving away much of his fortune to help others. That is what achieving the American dream means to me. Romney came from a privileged background, while at Bain his focus was on how to make companies profitable or how to liquidate companies without impacting shareholders investments, by his own admission, he enjoyed firing people, his approach to business solvency was focused on layoffs, elimination of benefits, or outsourcing to improve the bottom line. He claims he paid a lot of taxes, prove it. The only thing we know about his fortune today is that much of it is in Bermuda, the Cayman Islands, or in number accounts in Switzerland. His record does not suggest he is a man concerned with the welfare of workers and their families, his goal has always been the accumulation of wealth, even if it is achieved by putting thousands of people out of work. That, Montana, is a reflection of greed, arrogance, and ruthless behavior. As for Kerry, I was not too impressed with him, but at least he released his tax returns. Ditto for Pelosi, Rockefeller and, to their credit, the Bushes.

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        1. montanabill August 6, 2012

          Gates’ parents were probably on a par with Romney senior. Romney did not start with a huge advantage (see his biography). Your post indicates you do not fully understand how venture capital companies work or under what circumstances they make the decisions to either pare down a company or realize it simply can’t succeed. What you know is that some of his money is offshore. You do not know why. There is usually a good business reason why investment people keep money offshore, but demonization doesn’t allow those questions to be asked. Believe me, a venture capitalist makes far more money from a successful venture than one that has to be liquidated. We have one tax return and will soon have last year’s from Romney. Kerry released only his tax return, but his wealth is his wife’s and hers was not released. Neither Pelosi nor Reid have released theirs. So we have no idea how, on a Senator’s salary, Reid accumulated a $10M net worth.

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          1. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

            Nobody asked Romney’s wife to release her returns and Harry Reid isn’t running for President. It’s actually a better question just how Romney accumulated over $30 million in a SEP-IRA when the legal limit was about $30,000 per year. 15 years multiplied by $30,000 works out to about $450,000. Even considering smart investments that’s a very, very interesting trick that old Mitt pulled. Say, did you sell Mitt some of your ‘magic beans’ that create businesses out of thin air?

            It’s just greed, MB, so why don’t you give up the whoppers already? We all know that the GOP/TP is full of greedy, selfish deadbeats — but why must they lie so? Nobody is fooled. Being greedy isn’t against the law, and it would leave you more time to count your shiny pennies if you stopped contorting the facts and just came clean.

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          2. montanabill August 7, 2012

            I can forgive your ignorance on the IRA account, but do some more homework. It is possible.
            What I can’t forgive is your attitude that anyone who is able to achieve success must have done it by being greedy and selfish. That attitude seems to indicate that instead of trying harder and cheering others on, you are content with anger and resentment. In the words of Redd Foxx, watch out for the big one.

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          3. WhutHeSaid August 8, 2012

            Yes, ignorance can be forgiven — but not lies. The maximum contribution for 2012 in a SEP-IRA is $50,000. For 2011 it was $49,000. Try making $30 million+ out of even that amount for 15 years and tell me how you do it. Hint: It will involve some of your ‘magic beans’.

            I’m not angry at anyone over how much money they make. To me it’s a non-issue. I do begin to get angry when I see people using that money to do despicable things. Also, I don’t get angry over greedy people coming out here and telling huge whoppers — like you. I just call it as I see it. Sorry ’bout your luck.

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          4. montanabill August 8, 2012

            Sorry to pop your balloon. I asked you to do research on how that much could be amassed. You didn’t. You appear to have read only one paper. FYI. Since I started hiring people and before we went over 100 employees, they had a SEP and received the maximum contribution every year. It is one thing to total the amount of those contributions and another to compare the amount with the actual totals in their IRA’s. Because of the rules, we must now have 401k’s which are nearly as efficient.

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          5. WhutHeSaid August 8, 2012

            I noticed that you still didn’t explain how a person could amass $30 million+ in their SEP-IRA over 15 years given the legal contribution limits. Really, I expected you to come up with some novel new whopper involving magic beans, smoke and mirrors. I’m rather disappointed.

            You have, however, inadvertently answered my question about whether you consider yourself a small business — I take it the answer is no. So why are you constantly whining and whimpering about how the wealthy paying their share would hurt small business? It’s really just another of your diversions, yes?

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          6. montanabill August 8, 2012

            jarhead figured out a good explanation. Check it out. Yes, one of my businesses has grown beyond the definition of a small business, however, 3 others haven’t.

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          7. WhutHeSaid August 8, 2012

            Oh, I get it now — you wear a small business hat some days and a large business hat others. Why didn’t you just say so? Perhaps you could take both hats off and march down to your local Social Services Department and sign up for TANF too. Then you could go home, rub baby oil all over yourself, and roll around in a big pile of Krugerrands to your stingy little heart’s content. Snort up a little Medicare Viagra and you’d be having the time of your life, yes?

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          8. montanabill August 8, 2012

            So there is no such thing as a business between small and large. Regardless, I will admit to doing quite well and my employees are doing quite well, as are all the people I hire to do services for me and the charities I support. What I don’t understand though, is that if government created that for me, why didn’t they do that for everyone? Didn’t you raise your hand?

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          9. WhutHeSaid August 8, 2012

            I guess what really surprises me is that your ‘magical’ talent for business hasn’t vaulted you into the Forbes 400 — or has it? And since you need nothing more than ‘magic beans’ and your superior business skills to create successful businesses, why would you worry about taxes anyway?

            As I told you before several times, I’ve done quite well for myself. This causes you grief because you can’t understand how anyone who is successful can also be socially responsible. This is also, of course, the source of your jealous rages against Warren Buffett.

            I seriously doubt that either your employees or contractors are doing ‘quite well’ except perhaps in your mind. You are obviously a skinflint, so stop with the sob stories before I cry big puddles of salty tears all over my keyboard.

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          10. montanabill August 8, 2012

            I don’t worry about taxes and I pay my required share. However, since my businesses are S-Corps and LLC’s, their income is taxed at my individual rate and every dime that goes to the government is one less dime that I have to expand, invest or build new businesses. FYI: My ‘poor’ employees are paid well about average, have company paid dental insurance, company paid personal and family insurance, up to 4 weeks of paid time off per year and have had an amount equal to 15% of their salaries either deposited in their IRA accounts or into their 401k accounts, plus paid sick time. The result: I have a very loyal and hard working groups. I don’t think you would fit in.

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          11. WhutHeSaid August 8, 2012

            I certainly would not fit in – you couldn’t afford me. But aside from that fact, I’m a bit confused: Didn’t you say that you didn’t need anything but your wits and a few ‘magic beans’ to start successful businesses? Why then would you have to worry about the tax rates going up a couple points? Just move to Antarctica, put on your thinking cap, sprinkle a few ‘magic beans’ and — voila! Instant success. I think I’ve solved your problem, Bill.

            Hey, relax — No charge for the assistance.

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    2. Fern Woodfork August 6, 2012

      I Agree Romney Is Paying For His Greed And How He Made His Money!! And I Doubt That Reid Gone To Far And Everyone Is Not Envy Of The Rich I Know I’m Not!! When You Got All That You Want, A Great Job Making Lots Of Money And Got Great Investment Also Got Plenty Of Money In The Bank, There’s Nothing To Be Envy Of

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      1. Ibsyboy August 6, 2012

        It’s not wealth envy on my part, it’s mistrust of wealth. Wealth provides entre and influence. And influence is good for self serving purposes, or get out of jail free cards.

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        1. 2hheels2 August 6, 2012

          it is the POWER that Wealth provides. It makes people thing they are above the law. When you run for President your supposed to have more transparency. If he didn’t want to be transparent he should not have run for this Office.

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          1. Ashley August 6, 2012

            Hello.
            Harry Reid is not the problem, and he does not need to Put up nor shut up. My question is’. Romney is refusing to show his Tax returns. what makes him so special, and what is he hiding.
            Just release the Dam returns. what’s the problem. He is seeking the postion of President, and other candiates have fully disclosed their returns. Again, he should release his tax forms as a voter, I want to know.

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          2. Fern Woodfork August 6, 2012

            I Totally Agree With All The Above, It The Trolls Below Don’t Seem To Get It !! Kissing, sucking And Bowing Down To The Wealthy Ain’t Going Get You NOTHING But A Face Full Of DoDo!!! And The Only Thing In Waiting For Trickle Down Effect To Kick Is Rich People Trickling Piss On Yor Head Telling You It’s Raining (Money)!!! Romney and The American Taliban Members Of The 2% Is Full Of SHIT!!! They Don’t Give A Damn About America Nor The 98% Their Only Agenda Is Power, Control And MONEY That’s All!!! There Will Be NO ASS KISSING OF THE WEALTHY HERE!!! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!

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          3. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            Did you miss barak’s apology tour where he bowed and scrapped and sucked every foreign leader he was introduced to…That’s what happens when a quota recipient who never achieved anything on his own handles foreign affairs

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          4. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            Here’s a question for you, that I doubt you know the answer to, and I doubt you will care to find out. But, I’ll ask anyway. What foreign leader did he bow and apologize to? Betcha don’t know. That’s a tired old talking point. If you prefer I do the research I’d be happy to do it. But, I won’t find anything. It a myth.

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          5. onedonewong August 13, 2012

            King abdulla but he has Bowed to more than just him his most recent bow was at the global warming conference. He did it when I was in Chicago as he shined my shoes

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          6. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            So, again, let me see if I get this right. He went to a country where the tradition is to bow to the Royalty, Like he did with Queen Elizabet of the UK, and that is what you refer to a bowing to a dignitary. Every President in modern history hold to the tradition of respect to Foreign Rulers. Imagine if some one came to America and did not shake the Presidents hand. You guys on the Right would want to go to war.

            You forgot to give me the apologies he made. Can I expect them soon?

            As for the Shoe Shine remark that’s between you and Jesus.

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          7. onedonewong August 14, 2012

            So your saying that if he goes to Uganda where they practice cannibalism that he’ll eat humans….Sorry you never saw Reagan bow to anyone..

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          8. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Go fuck your self you childish
            imbecile.
            I am still waiting for a cogent reply on anything from you, not this childish gibberish you play with. Get serious for once.
            And try using some facts. I have yet to see any. You say you sent facts, but I searched all of your comments and could not find even one. point them out ot me when you get a chance, if that not asking to much. Nitwit.

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          9. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            Quit looking for your FACTS on this site try a reputable search engine like Google or Yahoo. Other wise you look like that avg dumb black

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          10. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Every time I receive a missive from you , that is what I immediately do. And I can find nothing that backs up anything you say. All you have to do is get your lazy cracker, crank snorting ass in gear and cite (it means state your source) the back up for your supposed facts. How hard is that for a hilly billy? It’s spelled GOOGLE, you type in your fact ans see what comes up. And in the case of all the made up BS you pass off as fact, there is no back up. How has Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny been treating you, when they come to your house. Still leave milk and cookies out for Santa. Wait Double Wides don;t have chimneys. An air vent for the propane is not a chimney. Just in via FOX News online: Paul Ryan admits to being arrested in college for soliciting a Prostitute. Go to FOX online. Photos of the prostitute and her statement. Word is his wife had an abortion before she met Paul (Salon .com). I guess you have to sleep with the clients when you are a DC lobbyist, which is what she was when she was hustling Paul for his votes. It may have been his kid.
            ALSO, Romney, caught by reporters, with Child Porn on Press bus. ( NY Times).

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          11. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            Once again you show your limited education you must have went to Harvard with Barak and spent the entire time smoking dope and sniffing coke.
            Barak has spent his entire life in Sec 8 hosing like your self, the WH was his big break, But like most colored he move his Momma and her traveling companion and his nephew and their family all into the WH.
            Everyone that’s been to the WH have said the same thing that they have a clothes line hung in the Lincoln bedroom, their soap making kettle in there and they use the east room for cooking greens and fat back

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          12. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Once again, I have to thank you for your undying responsibility to setting me straight.

            Obama, did spend his whole life in Section 8 housing, all Negroes do, including Colin Powell, he had a special Section 8 office at the pentagon. Alan West had a special section 8 tent in the Military. All of Herman Cain’s Pizza shops were section 8 buildings. Obama’s bisexual dorm rooms were section 8, and like all good successful Negroes he moved his family in to the Section 8 wing of the White House, as all good Negroes men should. Fried chicken bones all over the Lincoln bed room, watermelon rinds in the Section 8 oval office. Those two little nappy headed daughters stinking up their white house with hair straighten chemicals. Can’t wait for him to be gone so we can get a good up standing White man in there. Get that mayonnaise back on the shelf and get those Negroes slaves back in there to keep the place clean and cook the food and do the washing and Ironing. The only jobs any Negro is capable doing as long as ther is a White person watching them and they will work for free. Yas, Master Mitt, whats eber youz says Master Mitt and Miss Marys.

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          13. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            see above

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          14. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Ah, somebody ran to mommy and daddy. There is this man who keeps asking me for facts to back up what we all agree is real except him. Please do something about this scary man. And it worked. Good for you. Nice mommy and daddy you got.

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          15. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            You weren’t able to read when Reagan was Prez. How would you know. Yes, Obama would eat the human flesh, it part of Negro history. Dark meat, Yum.

            Oh, by the way see photo of Reagan bowing to a dog.

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          16. onedonewong August 16, 2012

            Reagan has a great friendship with Obama when he was younger. Obama even appeard in a movie with Reagan it was called Bed Time for Bonzo

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          17. Ibsyboy August 17, 2012

            What a putz. Do you know what a putz is?
            Here take your pick. 1. Slang; A fool an idiot. 2. Slang for penis.
            So, you are either a Moron or a Dickhead. Both is my choice. A Moronic-Dick.

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          18. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            Must have missed the movie HuH??? You can still buy it online. To be honest barak was a lot smarter when he was younger as the movie proves before he got hopped up on drugs

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          19. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            Being the First Negro PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the 43 person in the history of the world to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is very stressful, especially when he has to wake up to the ignorance such as yours. Ignorance which impedes the county from moving forward. But that’s part of the job, and I guess being hopped up helps deal with the BS that comes with the job, especially the ignorance we all have to wade through trying to help people who have lost their way due to short sightedness, negativity, contemptuousness, anger, hate and low self esteem. those drowning in racism, misinformation, and all out stupidity, due to an inability to grasp the simplest of concepts. That’s you Ducky. Imagine having to be around you all day. Pity those who do. One big lazy ass pain in the ass.

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          20. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            when he ran that he was in over his head. He thought that since he was a quota recipient all his life he could fake his way thru it. Unfortunately not knowing much about this country he was campaigning in all 57 states and trying to figure out why they didn’t pay taxes.
            As for stressful how?? His single 2 accomplishments since election was to plant a garden and do home brew in the basement in the WH. Other than that its been to spend other people’s money.

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          21. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            What do you expect form a Negro, why do you crackers keep asking so much of a Negro. You let the dumb cracker Bush, do what he wanted and that dumb ass white man, screwed the pooch. 2 unpaid for wars, unpaid for tax cuts, 750,000 jobs lost a month. At least the Negro ain’t that bad. But what can anyone expect from an alcoholic, coke snorting, Vietnam dodging cracker from a white wealthy New England, pretend Texan, privileged family, who got him in to an Ivy league College because he dad went there. His grades did not qualify him , but his old man’s money and connection, and the rich white kid quota had to be filled. Ladies and Gentlemen, brought to you by the dim bulb from Texas, the 2008 Financial Crash, heard around the world. The cowboy cracker brought the USA to it’s economic knees. And along comes the Negro, who stops the bleeding and saves the White Teas Crackers ass. Wall Street is doing better than it has in years, the American auto Industry is back on top, the Iraq war is over, Afghanistan is winding down, consumer confidence is up, trade deficit is on the decline, Navy Seals killed Bin Ladin, Median home sale prices are on the rise, Corporate profits at historical highs, more Billionaires than ever in the USA, Inflation at 2.3% down form 4.3% under the Cracker Bush, Spending fell 2 outof the 3 years the Negro has been in office. Long story short, the Negro has done a better job than the New England born and Ivy League educated Cracker.

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          22. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            There are FEWER americans working today than at anytime during W’s 2nd term so Barak must be loosing a whole lot more jobs per month than W. From 2000 to 2006 W only added $1T to the national debt and from 2007 to present when Dems took control of congress and then the WH they have added $10T to the national debt.

            W’s transcripts that he felt should be released were compared to Gore and Kerry in the elections and W’s grades were BETTER…imagine that. We do know that W’s grades out shone baraks in college. Something the left refuses to talk about.

            Barak got into college as a quota affirmative action token admission, he was always a D or c- student in college. But back then quota admissions didn’t have the same rigorous field of studies compared to those who who admitted on merit.

            As for drugs Barak is the only President that has to be tested monthly thrum urinalysis in order to be allowed to see classified information.

            Ford is up, GM owes the taxpayers over $25B and will likely never pay it back. They make 7 out of 10 cars some where other than the US and are moving their R&D to China. Once again showing Barak is an outsourcer of American jobs

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          23. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            I forgot, Bush did Obama one better, he held hands with King Abdullah as they walked. But, it is also a tradition. I can only imagine if Obama did that. The again, the Bush family are very tight with King Abdullah, like when Bush had the Bin Laden family flown safely out of America back to Saudi Arabia following 9-11.

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          24. onedonewong August 14, 2012

            Holding hands is the equivalent to kneeling and kissing his ring?? i due to his rules of engagement that places more value on mooslim notice that you didn’t bring up that Obama refused to give the Seals the OK to take out Bin Ladin on 4 separate occasions. Nor did you mention that we have record casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq every year that Barak has been president thanks to his rules of engagement that places more value on Mooslim lives than our own troops.
            You can google these FACTS for your self

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          25. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Get a friggin life won’t.
            All you had to do was look into the facts, putsz. Your talking about the 3 options that were presented to Obama as to how to get Obama, he passed on 2 and went with the one that he did, and it succeeded. Sonmething Georgie could not or would not do. So get your shit straight for once.

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          26. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            NOT options but Opportunities in time. It was Valerie Jarette who advised him NOT to get his moooslim brother

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          27. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            This how democracy works in your version of the USA:
            Veteran Republican political consultant, unrepentant dirty trickster, and recently reborn libertarian Roger Stone yesterday published a startling accusation against Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney on his personal website, The Stone Zone. According to Stone, the billionaire Koch brothers purchased the Republican vice presidential nomination for Ryan from Romney in late July by promising to fork over an additional $100 million toward “independent expenditure” campaigning for the GOP ticket.

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          28. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            He also revealed that The Moolim Brotherhood was the key financial backers for baraks campaign in 2008 funneling over $600M in drug money

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          29. Ibsyboy August 19, 2012

            It takes money to run a campaign, and if you have a bunch of Corporatists pumping money in to the GOP and The Communist Party of China through Sheldon Adelson pumping money into the GOP, how is a few hundred million from some nice Egyptians going to make a difference.

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          30. onedonewong August 19, 2012

            Barak spent $1 BILLION on his campaign in 2008. China and the Saudis were his largest campaign contributions and it paid off handsomely with Billions in Stimulus $$$. Unions also spent over $1.5 Billion on the election as well

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          31. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            Thanks to Social Security, Ryan was able to save money for college. Ryan is eager to deprive future orphans of the guaranteed support that he received.
            As a devote follower of declared Atheist Ayn Rand, Ryan has lived by her atheistic best selling book: The Virtue of Selfishness. Why was Ryan pal-ing around with an Atheist?
            And building his world view on her atheistic teachings? A God Hating VP Candidate.

            The first Atheist in the history of the Country, one heart beat away from the Presidency.

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          32. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            Thanks to quotas and foreign aid Barak was able to go to college as a foreign student.

            Why was Barak paling around with the Racist Rev wright and with the Moooslim brotherhood as well as the communist weather men??
            barak is the 1st Mooslim Socialist

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          33. Ibsyboy August 19, 2012

            I have been as polite as i can be. But, I have no time for such a hateful, ignorant red neck like your self. Calling you stupid would be insulting stupid people. There is no word to accurately describe the sheer anger, hate, ignorance, contempt, total lack of pride, and lack of knowledge about anything. Sorry, Ducky. There are other people on this thread who are not a total waste of time. I have been as polite as I had to be in riposting to your comments. Later. Dude. God help those who have to deal with you in the flesh. If your are by some miracle married. God save the children. They will be in my prayers. But, God can’t be that cruel and let your genes pass on to another human being. It’s bad enough you were born. Bye.

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          34. onedonewong August 19, 2012

            itsy you post a lot but never anything meaningful other than barak is your Messiah. Its tragic that a so called adult has fallen for this charlatan.
            But then again your black and no one has ever accused your race of being smart or hard working

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          35. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            Obama Better For Economy, Business Executives Say

            Reuters | Posted: 08/17/2012 5:25 am Updated: 08/17/2012 12:28 pm

            LONDON, Aug 17 (Reuters) – Twice as many business executives around the world say the global economy will prosper better if incumbent U.S. president Barack Obama wins the next election than if his Republican challenger Mitt Romney does, a poll showed on Friday.

            Democrat Obama was chosen by 42.7 percent in the 1,700 respondent poll, compared with 20.5 percent for Romney.

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          36. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            Let’s see he got 100% of all the votes from China, Japan, Finland, Brazil, Mexico and the middle east. Who would want to upset the $$ cart from america that the US taxpayers are sending there

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          37. Ibsyboy August 19, 2012

            Since when do the people you listed get to vote in America. Oh, yeah I know. They donate to the US Chamber of Congress which passes it along to the RNC. Bet you didn’t or want to know that. Foreign countries buy votes through the RNC, thanks to the US Chamber of Congress and the Communist Party of China through Sheldon Adleson. Do you even know who Sheldon Adelson is? Or what the US Chamber of Commerce is? My guess, NO.

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          38. onedonewong August 19, 2012

            itsbitsy you can’t deny 1 word in my previous post. Even Sen Schumer from NY has said that 85% of all the stimulus $$$ that Barak spent went to foreign countries who then repaid him with campaign contributions

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          39. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            What are you doing among these self congratulating Right Wing folks. Be careful, they are going to swarm you with non cogent insults, and inaccurate speculative replies. You can answer them if you like, but don’t waste your time trying to correct or inform them. This is Stepford land.

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          40. Nery Wasserman September 3, 2012

            I have a question ….does Mitt own
            property in China? How many trips
            in the past for business did Mitt take….

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          41. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            You may find this interesting:
            20% of the population of the USA control 93% of the Financial Wealth of the USA. 80% of the population controls 7% of the Financial Wealth of the USA. Can you guess how much influence 7% of the Financial Wealth of the USA gets You? Zilch. But, 93% of the Financial Wealth get you any thing your little heart desires. Such as, tax cuts, more deregulation of the Financial Markets, more loopholes. Absolutely no interference in any Business activity you choose. Ship every job over seas, lower wages, provide no health care, not retirement funds. Have a ball. It’s all on us the Under Class that little nuisance; 80% of the population.

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          42. surfcat123 August 6, 2012

            Romney is the one who must “put up or shut up”

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          43. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            He just put up. He picked Paul Ryan as VP. He would have been better off releasing more tax returns, it probably would have brought him less heat that this Ryan pick.

            Ryan is one of the leaders of a GOP Congress which has historically low poll numbers.

            He wants to screw with Medicare and Social Security. Two of the most popular aspects of out social contract with the citizens of the USA.

            He is a Teahadist darling. Nuff said.

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          44. delroy brown August 8, 2012

            Romney says he paid all his taxes and not a penny more. My question to him is this. If that is true sir and you took only those deduction you are entitled to, you have done nothing wrong, so release the taxes even if you pay zero. Unless you are covering up a crime I cant see a reason for you not to. The soldiers you are promising to send into war with Iran faces far more danger than your embarrassment. They faces potential death and loss of limb . The worst you face is a fine and embarrassment. Don’t let them down they deserve a brave commander in chief like the one who ordered the hit on Bin Laden , not some coward hiding behind his wife’s skirt and a paid surrogate.

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          45. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            why to satisfy your perverted sense of entitlement

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          46. montanabill August 10, 2012

            He has released one tax return and will release last year’s when it is complete. Most Presidents only released tax returns the years they were in office.

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          47. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            Once again, a statement made into a fact. He is not the President, he is running for President. He submitted 23 years’ worth of tax returns to John McCain and that was for the VP slot. So for President his answer is “stuff it America.” You people are getting all you’re going to get.
            By the way, McCain rejected Romney for his obscene amount of wealth and went w/ Palin. This is the same guy who demanded to see several years of returns from the people he was running against in the Primaries. Pure unadulterated hypocrisy. And the Right Wing, just lets it slide by. Hmm. Obama goes on vacation the the whole world is collapsing. There is something illogical about that.

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          48. David August 11, 2012

            Romney has already released the tax records required “like most presidential candidates do”. Asking for more is ridiculous, petty and unjustified.

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          49. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            Romney gave John McCain 23 years of returns just to be considered as a VP choice. But wanting the American people to vote for him for the most powerful job in the world. He gives 0ne year. Essentially it’s F**k You American Voters, I don’t need to do sh*t for you. Just wait and see what you get if I become POTUS. Ready, drum roll please. NOTHING. NADA. ZILCH. I am going to repeal RomneyCare Two, the sequel. Lower taxes on all the Obese Cats. Hit the middle class up to pay for the tax cuts. I am going to reconfigure Medicare, so you won’t recognize it, and I’m thinking of Privatizing Social Security. Aren’t you excited? Oh and those Poor Negro folk. F**K ’em. They have been on the gravy train too long, as for their children F**k them too.

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          50. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            When will Harry release his returns??? What makes him so special and what is he hiding??

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          51. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            Romney thinks he has made a smart move, he picked Paul Ryan. Notice no one is asking about tax returns, now they are asking who is Paul Ryan, and why does he want to screw with Medicare and Social Security. This is a bigger problem than tax returns. This a giant wad of gum stuck on the sole of one of Romney’s $2000 custom made shoes. And he isn’t going to be able to get this kind of gum off. This is PALIN TWO, the sequel.

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          52. KurtofLA September 15, 2012

            The problems are the shit democrats. Nothing but problems created and all they are looking for is a distraction. Your “idiot of the month award” is also in the mail

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          53. Ibsyboy August 7, 2012

            You are absolutely correct. For example, Sheldon Adleson, Romney’s big money guy, is under federal investigation for breaking the law, it will drag out for years, Adelson will pay someone to fall on his sword for Abelson, and it will all go away.

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          54. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            And Ruzuka who Barak took money from is also doing time so is their a point here??

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          55. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            There is not one piece of evidence that you or anyone else can find that says Obama took money from Rezko. This lie has been looked into by every anti-Obama thug out there and they have come up with nothing. If you were interested in the truth you would know this and would stop allowing your self to be used for spreading propaganda. If I am wrong, prove it.

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          56. onedonewong August 13, 2012

            He even admitted it after the statue of limitations had passed
            PS shoo fly bother someone else

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          57. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            OMG. Please forgive me for being so lazy and impudent as to ask where and when he said that. I know, I know, it is wrong of me to ask you, when I can just as easily go to the Internet and find it for myself. By the way this just in, from very reliable sources: Paul Ryan admits he was arrested for soliciting a prostitute.
            I am back; no luck with Obama admits taking money from Rezko. A lot of supposition concerning a house and some land, but nothing with any solid evidence. Why again haven’t the Kochs & Adelson with their Billions use this stuff against Obama. I can tell you, it’s BS. Knuckles you’re sinking fast. You are going to run out of Right Wing talking points, what will you do then? I do admire your willingness to go down with the ship. Man the life boats. Not you Knuckles. Ahoy Mate.

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          58. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            I think I may have stumble upon what your dimwitted brain calls a fact. You make a statement devoid of any verification and call it a fact. Sorry, Ducky. Dumb is not an excuse for what you call facts.

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          59. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            Are you claiming He didn’t say it?????? PLEEEEASE

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          60. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Here’s the quote. Show me where he said ‘put black people back in chains”

            “(Romney) is going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street,” Biden said at a campaign event in Danville, Virginia. “He is going to put y’all
            back in chains.”

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          61. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            What does black people have to do with his comment??? This administration has been racist from the day they enter the WH and so is Joe. Of course you have no idea what racism means

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          62. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            You are absolutely right. The minute those Negroes came in to the White House the hate whitey sign went up. He tried real hard to only get the Negro members of the military home form Iraq and leave the white ones there, he surrounded himself with Negros in the White House, all the people who look white are actually Negroes in White makeup. That’s not really Hillary Clinton, it a Negro woman made up to look like Hillary Clinton, the real Hillary Clinton is dead, the Negro Mafia killed her off when Obama moved into the White House. When he wins re election , I here he is going to have all white people put into concentrations camps, and take their homes and give them to Negroes. Plus all the staff in the White House and the entire Government will be replaced with Negroes. He will have the White people on the SCOTUS, killed and replaced with Negroes, and dumb ass white crackers like you will be fired from their jobs, and replaced with Negroes, and all Corporations will only be able to outsource to Africa or any other Negro nations.

            The Chicken will be come the nation bird replacing the bald eagle, and watermelon will be the national fruit. Colleges will not be allowed to have White athletes, only;y Negroes will be allowed to play sports because we all know Negroes run faster and jump higher. Only Negro men will be allowed to make porn movies because they have bigger cocks then white men. And we all know any white man with a big cock has Negro blood. Any women who is tired of tiny dicked white men can get an instant divorce and marry a giant cocked Negro. White women will be compelled to marry or live with big cocked Negroes.

            Slowly the white race will evaporate and the USA will have nothing but big strong big cocked Negroes running the USA. That is the plan that was hatched in Kenya, when they elected Obama’s father to marry a white woman, take his enormous Negro cock impregnate the White woman, show her what a real man can do, have a male Child, name him Barack, and have him become President of the USA, then take over America and turn it into a Negro nation of women with big butts and men with enormous cocks. One of the most finely planned conspiracies in the entire history of the world.
            Negroes will finally get to kick the shit out of crackers and screw their women. Good God all mighty, thanks you Jesus. We have over come. Big cocks and all.

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          63. onedonewong August 16, 2012

            There weren’t any negroes fighting in Iraq they were all in the rear with the gear

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          64. Ibsyboy August 17, 2012

            Of the 4,487 US Soldiers Killed and 32,223 Seriously Wounded … 9% were African-American (Negroes). In 1770 when the American Colonies rose up in resistance to England, Negro patriots were there. There were Negro Minutemen among the colonial forces. When the Revolutionary War began, there were Negro members of the Continental Army. It’s an ignorant thing to say when there are families who lost loved ones protecting your freedom, while you sat at home sipping a warm Bud and sucking on a bong while playing video games. Coward.

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          65. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            Yes some have been killed when a terrorist got in to the kitchens and killed the cooks. When the colonies rose up to the British the vast majority of Blacks signed up with the British to dig foundations and do menial labor

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          66. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            I am going to leave this comment between you, Jesus and his Father. You’re getting way beyond my ability to deal with this much hate of other people. Racism is a hard sickness to deal with. Jesus loves you.

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          67. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            I agree with you that Baraks racism is the worst for any president. This is the 21st century and barak thinks he living in Africa and hunting down his countrymen for slaves. Its tragic

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          68. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            He does get his hands dirty hunting, he sells them to the white man to take to America, where the job creators were looking for people who would work for free or die. The South would have never got going with out the Negroes Obama sent over. They would have had to pay white people to pick the cotton, and no self respecting southern white person would get caught dead working for a living.

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          69. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            The good thing about shipping them here was they learned a trade, to read and write and to count. Unfortunately they could never learn to be independent and were taught to rely on their betters for everything

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          70. montanabill August 10, 2012

            Please note that Obama won’t release his college transcripts and history. There are some good questions about why.

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          71. David August 11, 2012

            Transparent? Owebama spent millions of dollars hiding his school records and has the gall to accuse anyone of hiding something?

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          72. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            If I may be so bold as to ask. Where did you get “he spent millions of dollars,” hiding his school records?
            I’d like to see that, betcha can’t tell me. Because, you don’t know. You’re just parroting Right Wing noise, yu hear in the wind. Prove me wrong. If this is the Gary Kreep rumor, it’s a hoax. Kreep admitted there is no such evidence.

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          73. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            Did I already reply to this silly nonsense? Can you cite your source for this gem of a piece of BS? Betcha can’t. And I doubt I will get anything, other than some witty insult in reply.

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          74. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            No question as barak has said over and over the constitution is just a dam piece of paper

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          75. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            Can you cite the source of this over and over statement. You constantly fail to answer my requests for verification, I’ll take that as an acknowledgement on your part that your comments are rumors, unsubstantiated by any fact. So, should I stop asking or are you willing to answer a simple question, where did you hear this gem.
            Can’t be that hard to find out. You state it with such conviction, so you must know where you heard or read it. C’mon, tell me. If you can, my guess you can’t.

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          76. onedonewong August 13, 2012

            Sorry boy your constant requests for verification reflects a mind that lacks a scintilla of curiosity or desire to learn anything. Your typical of most Dem’s who are used to having society do their bidding because they are too lazy to make it on their own

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          77. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            So, what you are saying is, if I ask you where you get your info, you are alright with not bothering to tell me, because it is rude on my part to ask you in the first place. And, according to your logic, if I told you Paul Ryan was arrested for solicitation of a prostitute you would not disagree with me or ask me to back up that comment. Well I see where the strength of the Right Wing lays. Make it up, say what you want, pass along erroneous info, and take no responsibility for it’s credibility. I see why it may be fun to go through life like that, if that’s what floats your boat. Don’t for get now; Paul Ryan was arrested for soliciting a prostitute. That’s what I have heard from very reliable sources, but don’t ask for them, I don’t have to tell you. DON’T FORGET…RYAN/PROSTITUTION. IT’S A FACT.

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          78. KurtofLA September 15, 2012

            Another “Idiot of the month award”
            I am sure you are referring to Obama’s transparency

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        2. onedonewong August 7, 2012

          You mean like Baraks after he took a bribe from the Mafia , or his wife’s no show job that kind of influence??

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          1. Ibsyboy August 8, 2012

            The hatred for Barack Obama by folks like your self in constant search for anything anti- Obama reminds me of an old Chinese Proverb: “It is very difficult to find a black cat in a dark room, especially when there is no cat.” Birtherism, Etc.

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          2. onedonewong August 8, 2012

            Hatred?? All I did was post a few KNOWN facts about your messiah.
            “those who can’t see the truth when its presented can’t see””

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          3. Ibsyboy August 9, 2012

            There is an obligatory aspect to every fact; Truth. Nothing you stated is true. Their slogans, talking points. To help you comprehend the proverb. Your in the dark looking for something that doesn’t exist. Your desperation, driven by your inexplicable dislike for the man, has you grabbing at straws. I have yet to see any thing the Right Wing has come up with, that holds water. Nothing, not one blessed thing. If any one of the inaccurate accusations the Right purports to be factual was true, then the Corporatists, wouldn’t be spending a Billion bucks to prop up a dud like Romney. He’s a stooge who will jump when his Corporate masters say, jump. And you my friend get nothing for carrying water for them. This BS you toss around comes from them, via FOX, Rush, Beck, Right Wing Blogs, the Blame Stream Media, all of which they own, not from between your ears. You’re just a little kid who the big kids let hang around, because you’re willing to run errands. So if you got anything going on, give me something more than the BS, you have the audacity of calling facts. You wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you on the ass, and if it did you would pretend it didn’t hurt. There’s nothing wrong with filling in the gaps of your misinformed mind. So give me some facts. You can take as long as you like to Google up every Right Wing piece of BS you can find. It’s a total waste of your time. You will find nothing worth repeating. It’s all fictional BS. Written specifically for water carriers like you.

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          4. onedonewong August 11, 2012

            Hey boy your entire post is nothing but ad hominems pretty typical from the left. Every thing I posted is factual and if you try a ew research tool called “google” you’ll be able to verify everything I have said.
            Unlike you barak isn’t my messiah just a rank amateur and Harry is a CROOK. Turn off the State Run Media and do your own research its amazing what you’ll find and you won’t look so foolish in the future when you post

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          5. Ibsyboy August 12, 2012

            Do me a favor and indicate the ad hominems. Do you even know what an ad hominem is? Harry is a CROOK. See the liberty you take, no evidence, just say what you want without having to be responsible for it. It would be considered an insult if I called you an A-hole, but using your definition of word usage, I can say that without any consequence or proof. You haven’t said anything. There is not one verifiable comment you have made they’re all Limbaugh-isms. I asked before and I’ll try again give me something substantive. Harry is a Crook, well I can see all the facts behind that remark. NOT! Please stop avoiding the request give me something substantive. Not some talking point or outright lie. You’re good a babbling, but put some meat on your comments. That is if you can. That’s a dare. You can’t do it. Because there is nothing available to back up your inexplicable dislike for Obama and Democracy. You’re just a foot soldier in FOX’s war on America.

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          6. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            Glad we agree about Harry, I provided you with the evidence the Native casino $$, not to mention his 5 million he ‘earned” in a law practice before he ran from office in just 90 days…
            All my comments are verifable try using a new technique that was launched last week its called Google, Its the rage with all the left wingnuts

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          7. Ibsyboy August 12, 2012

            5 Million is not Wealth, Romney’s 250 Million that’s wealth, and he made a lot of it through that un-American tactic Bain pioneered, out sourcing. In Freeport, IL, an entire town is in danger of shutting down. Bain bought a very profitable company that is the heart of the economy of Freeport, IL. Sensata Technologies, 40 years of profitable business, Bain buys it, moves the jobs to China, insult to injury; the local, soon to be unemployed, workers, had to train their Chinese replacements. That’s just down right fucking cold. That’s the company and ideology Mitt Romney built into the Bain method of doing business, fuck American workers, fuck the American economy, there are more profits in China, and Mitt still holds a large share of stock in Bain, so he will gain from Freeport’s loss. That’s who the GOP offers to America as a Presidential candidate, and now Ryan, with his Medicare, social security killing plan, that also raises taxes on the middle class. What a winning team, you should hold your head up high, your selling the country to the Wealthy. Those people who you can not seem to discern from the rich. The Poor look at anyone who owns a house as rich. Wealth is incomprehensible to the Poor, and apparently to you as well.

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          8. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            Outsourcing is un american. Think about how un american it must be when Barak outsourced millions of jobs with taxpayer money, NOW that’s un american

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          9. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            Your a raving maniac of BS. Where do you get this Crap.

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          10. onedonewong August 14, 2012

            Are you denying that all the wind turbos that the govt has purchased come from China?
            That all the solar panels that DOD and GSA are buying come from China
            The steel for the new bridge in San Fran came from China
            Tesla electric cars are made in Finland
            7 out of 10 cars from GM are made other than the US and they are moving their R&D to china.
            But you knew that HUH???

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          11. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            I have seen zero facts in any of your comments you wrote. Reid embezzled his money, Obama said over and over the constitution is just a piece of paper, Obama was a foreign aid student, he shined your shoes in Chicago, he has no experience, none of it is true. I tried for hours to find any of this stuff, I found it , but none of what I found was any more than lies with no back up what so ever. All you state is Right Wing BS, with ZERO verification.
            Don’t forget Paul Ryan arrested for soliciting a Prostitute. Pass it on. You want a source? Can’t help you there. Ryan/Prostitute. Absolute fact!!!

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          12. onedonewong August 14, 2012

            Reid didn’t take Native Casino money to pay for his hotel in DC???
            Obama has proven his disdain for the constitution over and over
            Barak’s college transcripts show that he was a foreign student
            Barak is a bisexual per his college room mate
            Michelle hates America
            All those statements are TRUE

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          13. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Please do not lead me to believe that what is in your comment are facts. Their suppositions. Here’s a fact, one plus one equals two the statement and (1+1=2) verification, ergo, a fact. Are you asking me if reid took monsy fro a casino, or are you tlling me, if so where is your backup? Obamaz has distain for the Constitution . That’s a statement, where is the backup. Show me your source.

            Here is a great example of a fact: The transcripts haven’t been released (federal privacy laws forbid it), nor has any court of law “ordered” them released. (Source: Occidental College) Notice the source.

            According to various news sources Obama did attend on a scholarship, but it wasn’t a Fulbright scholarship, let alone a Fulbright scholarship for foreign students. The Fulbright Foreign Student Program accepts Master’s Degree and Ph.D. candidates only. Obama, an undergraduate, was neither. He couldn’t have been awarded a Fulbright scholarship for foreign students even if he had been born outside the U.S. (Source: Fulbright Program) Notice the source.

            That is how a fact is presented. State, sorceor verification. A statement with no support is not a fact.

            Here’s a small easy challenge for you. Who was Obama’s roommate who said that?

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          14. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            Reid was interviewed by the media n that very topic and his response was with an indignant posture said ala Clinton “I’m working doing everything I can for the american people”
            Barak disdain lets see – GM bailout, DOMA, Immigration, voter intimidation, new quota programs, fast and furious….that’s just off the top of my head
            Barak was admitted to college as a foreign student because he was a C/D student and couldn’t get in with his peers. So he claimed to be a foreign student and that his grades were a result of ESL. He then applied as a foreign exchange student for aid, not a scholarship
            Which one Wayne Root who has written that Barak was an avowed communist and moooslim or Imad Husain who said he is bisexual. Isn’t it amazing that the State Run Media has gone back in Romneys past to when he was in Grade school looking for dirt but they have never investigated barak’s background??

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        3. David August 11, 2012

          owebama is wealty. reid’s wealth has skyrocketed on a mere Senator’s salary. hmmmmm?

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          1. Ibsyboy August 12, 2012

            Big Dave, see above for my definition of Wealth. And just about anyone who looks at wealth for what it really is. Not some guy who worked hard to earn a lot of money. That’s not wealth that’s income. We earned that wealth for them. We elected the legislators who voted for the big tax cuts and deregulation of the Financial Markets. There was an explosion of instant Billionaires with out lifting a finger or breaking a sweat. We bailed out the banks, not the Wealthy, they benefited from the bailouts. They got wealthier. Now if we are indirectly responsible for their wealth, it is no big deal to ask them for some of that money back in a tax increase. Not an unfair position to take, considering it was our representatives that passed the legislation that helped bring them their vast wealth. See above what they get from their wealth. And how much they run the country. We are the under class now Dave. The Middle Class is shrinking, Poverty is on the rise, Vast Wealth at the top is increase by leaps and bounds, while we argue over the Negro in the White House. They laugh at us. We are amusing to them. They want Romney because he is one of them, and will take care of his buds, not the under class. If you count your money in 20s, 10s, 5s, 1s and change, you do not count. You mean nothing to Romney. Ryan’s tagging along to get his taste of wealth. If R&R win the 1% will take care of Paulie.

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          2. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            Reid didn’t earn his money his was attained thru embezzlement

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        4. onedonewong August 12, 2012

          You should be much more afraid of a president who got where he his not based on merit but based on color as a quota receiptent

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          1. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            You should change your name to: OneWrongCommentAfterAnother. Again, with little chance of getting an answer, I will plead with you to cite (tell me the source) where you got this choice piece of BS. I’ve asked politely regarding your other crazy statements, but this time I am begging to know where you get this piece of crap. I assume you don’t know or I would have heard from you pertaining to the other requests I’ve made. Advice: If you were to cite your source when you make these inane broad statements, you would establish some credibility for your view point. Other wise you’re just yelling out meaningless lies.

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          2. onedonewong August 13, 2012

            Where? from baraks college transcripts that outline the criteria for his admission. Everything as a foreign student when applying for aid and as a minority to Harvard.
            Now that you have it do your own resaerch

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          3. Ibsyboy August 13, 2012

            Here’s a very simple situation. The Koch Brothers and Billionaire Sheldon Adleson are spending 100s of millions to get Obama out of office. Why don’t they just spend a few million and reveal all this Right Wing BS about his Birth and college records, it would certainly get rid of him quick, and save them millions. Why? Because they have and it is all BS. The Supreme Court, the current right wing supreme court, has refused to hear any Birther case. Why? Because they know it is BS. Why do you persist in pushing BS, when those with more influence than all Right Wingers put together avoid it as a tactic to get rid of Obama. Why have you not asked yourself this question. Because it will take away from you these fantasy conspiracies you enjoy so much.

            ALSO: I searched the internet for Obama/Occidental College and asked this Question: Has anyone released Obama’s Occidental College transcripts? This is what I found. According to Occidental College.

            No, the transcripts haven’t been released (federal privacy laws forbid it), nor has any court of law “ordered” them released. (Source: Occidental College)

            AND: To cover my bases I found this: Did Obama attend Occidental under the name “Barry Soetoro”?

            No. Soetoro was the surname of his stepfather, but there’s no evidence Barack Obama used it when he attended college. Fellow alumni quoted in the press remember him as “Barry Obama.” According to an Occidental spokesperson the college has no records showing Obama used his stepfather’s last name.

            AND: To cover all my bases. I found this. Did Obama attend Occidental under a Fulbright Scholarship for Foreign Students?

            No. According to various news sources Obama did attend on a scholarship, but it wasn’t a Fulbright scholarship, let alone a Fulbright scholarship for foreign students. The Fulbright Foreign Student Program accepts Master’s Degree and Ph.D. candidates only. Obama, an undergraduate, was neither. He couldn’t have been awarded a Fulbright scholarship for foreign students even if he had been born outside the U.S. (Source: Fulbright Program)

            WHAT MORE CAN I TELL YOU? YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN THE TRUTH, OR AT LEAST THE TRUTH WHICH DISPELS YOUR BELIEFS. YOUR HATE FOR THIS MAN HAS LEAD YOU TO A WELL OF LIES, WHICH YOU APPARENTLY NEED TO DRINK FROM, TO COVER UP WHAT EVER INEXPLICABLE REASON YOU HAVE TO DISLIKE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA. I PERSONALLY THINK YOU DON’T REALLY KNOW WHY YOU DISLIKE HIM.

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          4. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            That belief between you and The Creator

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          5. onedonewong August 14, 2012

            Ebonics or ESL???

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          6. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Yes indeed, good catch Cracker.

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        5. onedonewong August 12, 2012

          You mean like Bill Clinton, LBJ and FDR

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      2. onedonewong August 7, 2012

        Reid can end the drama just let him produce his tax records 1ST

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        1. Fern Woodfork August 8, 2012

          Here I Will Say It Again Take Your Ass Kissing Of The Rich Man Somewhere Else Stop Talking To Me!! You Racist ASSHOLE TROLL!!!

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          1. onedonewong August 11, 2012

            typical blue gum negro

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          2. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            What kind of relationship do you have with God and his son Jesus? This comment is a sad desperate, frustrated remark. You’re running out of things to say, and out of frustration, you stoop as low as you can to come up with this comment. This is a sign of a truly frustrated individual when you will go to this line of response.
            I think I now know why you hate Obama. Has nothing to do with College transcripts, bowing to foreign dignitaries, none of the crap you have been hiding behind on this entire thread. You just don’t like Negroes. I can’t tell whether you are male, female or gay. But y’all don’t like the colored folk, no how. You should just say that in the first place, your among friends here, use the “N” word if you like. It will save you a lot of frustration, trying to discredit the President of the United States of America with all that Right Wing hogwash. Come on let it out. Free yourself of the shackles of Right Wing Baloney.

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          3. onedonewong August 14, 2012

            Did you ask Fern?? She’s the one with the viral attacks. I simply responded in Kind.
            No I just don’t Negros like Fern the low class scum who populates this web site that you seem to ignore.
            Every thing I posted about Obama is factual

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        2. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

          My grandmother had a parrot with more interesting things to say than the stuff you parrot for the Right Wing.

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          1. onedonewong August 14, 2012

            Knowing your family it was a crow and you ate it

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          2. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            You don’t know shit about my family you obnoxious cock sucker. You fucking hillbilly crank snorting fucking moron. Your a racist twit with a gigantic low self image problem. Your over riding inferiority complex has lead you to reach down to the bottom of the barrel for some low shit. Fucking with my family is out of bounds, you pathetic little trailer trash, living in mom’s basement or at your girlfriends apartment jerk off, mother fucker. Grow the fuck up you homeless twit. I have been polite enough to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your aimless, imbecilic comments. And have tried to engage in some sharing of information, but your narrow minded Right Wing Racist, Misogynistic inferior world view is a waste of everyone’s time. You have nothing to say, you don’t know shit about anything, and you keep saying the same asinine stuff over and over, and as you have obviously run out of Right Wing horse shit, you decided to slam my family, who you do not know, and if you did i’d still be pissed at you you brainless, ignorant limped dick mother fucker. And everything in this comment is a certifiable fact.

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          3. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            Just because you don’t know who your father is is no shame on yor part. 80% of all blacks are in your category

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          4. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            You do realize that if I knew where you were, and could touch you, you would be over. You have no idea who you are fucking with. We here in NJ do not take lightly insults to our FAMILY. If you have the balls to stand up and reveal your self and where you are, I am sure there is someone there I could trust with the situation. I have a very very large Family.

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          5. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            Insults to your family?? Your an insult to every family. I have no doubt you have a very large family most colored do because they don’t work and have nothing better to do than lay in bed all day as you eat your govt cheese and talk on your obama phone.
            As for living in NJ sorry about that it rivals NYC as the arm pit of the world

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          6. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            And all the men in my family have giant cocks that white women love to death. They can’t get enough of it. The white women just love staying in our beds all day admiring our giant cocks. And our women all love having babies, because it entails getting screwed with a giant cock. Laying in bed all day screwing white woman with our giant cocks while they feed us government cheese., and beg for more giant cock. Yes you have us completely figured out. NJ is where the keynote speaker at the GOP convention comes from, he is our chubby Tony Soprano wannabe. We love him for his dedication to our special little armpit. He is part Sicilian there for he is part Negro. As you well know the Negroes from Africa conquered Italy at one time and screwed all the Italian women with their big Negro cocks. That’s is the weapon that conquered Italy. The Gigantic Negro Cock. He will never be President unfortunately, because his is part Italian and white people hate Italians as much if not more than Negroes, that is why Governor is about a high an office an Italian can get. there has never been an Italian President and there never will be. White people elected a Negro first. No Italian will ever become President, unless the Negro population becomes a majority, and they vote for a Gumba.

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        3. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

          He has of course released more than 30 years of detailed [personal finance disclosures]. There is exponentially more information available to the public about Sen. Reid’s financial life than there is about Mitt Romney’s.”

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          1. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            Nope its not. the fact that his disclosure doesn’t count in as income the Native donations shows he’s a tax cheat

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          2. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Get lost loser. What about the other stuff about the college transcripts, I noticed you let those slide. You are boring, tiring, a sad sack, not worth the air you suck out of the atmosphere. Take a hike hick.

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          3. onedonewong August 15, 2012

            I’m glad that you want barak to produce his college records…good for you

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          4. Ibsyboy August 15, 2012

            Well you do know why he will not produce them, he didn’t really go to college thatis what is being hidden from the Public. He did not go to Columbia and Harvard, he was not the President of the Harvard Law review, those photos in the year books are fakes, placed there by the Kenyan Government as part of their plan to get him into the White House, they got him a fake law degree on line, had him hired by one of the most prestigious law firms in Chicago, by paying the law firm off, then the Kenyan Government got him a seat in the Illinois legislature, by bribing the entire population of Illinois. then the Kenyan Government bribed the entire population to vote for Obama as President. Now they are bribing people again to get him re elected. When he takes office for his second term, he will have America renamed the USK. United States of Kenya. The 50 year grand plan will finally come to a close. Negroes will rise up out of poverty and take over the USA. They have all been pretending to be poor and taking your money to run the USA down, when they leave poverty they will reveal themselves as economists, scientists, engineers, and they will take away all the white folks jobs and push the White Folks into poverty, which is slowly happening already thanks to Obama and his friends at Negro Corporations. And every African nation will rise up against the White Man, with nuclear weapons acquired from their Chinese and Muslim Brothers and obliterate the entire white population of the earth. That’s is the sole reason Obama was born, to fulfill the great plan begun in the small nation of Kenya some 50 plus years ago. The Black Panthers will replace the police force, and national guard. The Pentagon will be taken over by Muslims, Sharia law will be imposed. white men will become slaves and White Women will belong to big cocked Negro males. God Bless the Lord for providing Negro men with giant cocks.

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          5. onedonewong August 16, 2012

            Barak never worked for a law firm he worked for ACORN. I wouldn’t put anything else you said past the Kenya govt
            Negroes will never rise up it requires initative and brains

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          6. Ibsyboy August 17, 2012

            Obama worked as an associate (a non partner, in case you didn’t know what an associate is) at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990. In 1993, he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, where he was an associate (a non Partner) for three years from 1993 to 1996. All law firms have a few Partners, that’s where the names of the firms come from, and the other attorneys in the firm are associates. (Just to keep you up to speed, in case you should mistakenly think associates are not lawyers, or employees) I hope I didn’t insult you by including that clarification.

            As for the Negroes rising up. If R&R by some miracle get in, and fulfill their promise to starve the poor out of poverty, you will see an uprising. Not only Negroes but poor Caucasians as well, for more and more Caucasians have been driven into Poverty by the harsh obstructionism of the GOP & The Teahadists, in not addressing the jobs situation. Did you miss the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s. If you were old enough at the time, I am sure it was just a minor nuance to you. It was the time the Slaves finally were guaranteed their constitutional right to vote.

            Just a refresher: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

            Don’t you ever tire of being WRONG?

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          7. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            And just want cases did barak work on?? he did the probono work for the firms because he was their token hire. they wouldn’t let him touch anything important
            Blacks are the largest group on every handout 49% of all welfare recipients are black more than whites. The same for food stamps and crime and drugs and illegitimate babies. That’s why Barak eliminated the work requirement from welfare.
            Yep i saw the riots and those knuckle heads did 1 thing DESTROYED their own neighborhoods which were still destroyed until orientals came in and rebuilt them. same thing with NO after Katrina. Mexico sent of 10’s of thousands of people to rebuild the city since all the locals were all on welfare and the red cross VISA cards.
            Its a shame that you can quote the preamble but not understand that when a group of people refuse to help themselves no matter how much the deck is stacked to help them society views them as outcasts and lazy

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          8. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            Jesus loves you. You are not alone.

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          9. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            Is Barak your Messiah??

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          10. Ibsyboy August 18, 2012

            There is only one Messiah. Our lord Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God.

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          11. onedonewong August 18, 2012

            Not the green cooking fatback eating guy in the WH??? Good for you

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      3. KurtofLA September 15, 2012

        We are almost out of “Idiot of the month” awards. With people like Woodfork what wonder we have the government we have

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    3. Howard August 6, 2012

      The problems of this country do not stem from Romneys Tax return that is just a false argument put forward by the Obama criminal regime in order to change the subject.Its no accident that Reid spewed out these lies on the senate floor (where he is protected from law suits) ,if he said it anywhere else he would be guilty of malicious slander
      If its openness transparency that is in-question then I say Romney should only release more records when Obama does the following
      Unseal his college records from Columbia and Harvard and also how did he pay for the schooling

      Unseal his pass port records
      Unseal his Social Security records
      The problems of this country do not stem from Romneys Tax returns

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      1. ococoob August 6, 2012

        Look, if Romney was straight up in the beginning about his taxes, this wouldn’t be such a big deal. Why should he be any different than any of the other past Presidents? Simply put, what is his problem having to reveal his taxes, eh? It’s a poor excuse blaming as you called, “Obama criminal regime.” What is Romney hiding here?

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        1. Mortgage August 6, 2012

          Just because Romney does not want everyone in all of his personal business does not mean he is hiding anything. He turn in what was required for him to turn in. This is just another smoke screen by the President to get us away from the real issues. You need to read what I have seen in the health care bill. In the future, the government is going to have the ability and right to to directly into your bank account and take you money. Also, the federal government is going to set all doctor’s rates. If you are older and become very ill, our govenment will decide if you can get medical treatment according to if it is feasible to treat you. This is a form of genecide to me. Wake up…and smell the gas chambers…they are being readied and I sure hope you or your family members do not become very ill..the new health care will not cover you. This is NOT the type of health care that we as a great nation need.

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          1. SaneJane August 6, 2012

            You are repeating debunked myths about the healthcare bill. If you actually read the law I have to seriously question your comprehension skills. Perhaps if you read the law or a reliable summary of the law you would not have to be so frightened all the time. Sniffing out gas chambers and other things to fear is an unrewarding occupation.

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          2. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            Debunked?? Debunked by who Nancy Peeelosi who hasn’t read the bill??

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          3. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

            Wow — you sound nuttier than a shit-house rat. If you must dance around in the rhetorical dog-poop, please confine it to your own trailer park.

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          4. old_blu August 6, 2012

            Mortgage, I’m going to quote a friend. ” You know you are not right, and I don’t mean you are wrong, you just ain’t right.”

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          5. ococoob August 6, 2012

            Stay on the subject here, ok? Romney has something to hide here. This tells me everything about his integrity and character. The man is running for POTUS and thus, he is FAIR game, so release some more just like all previous POTUS have done.

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          6. joyscarbo August 7, 2012

            GIVE EM HELL, HARRY REID!!!!! Make Mitty show all 10 years of tax returns!!!! 😀

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          7. onedonewong August 12, 2012

            He’s released the same number of records just like previous candidates

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          8. ococoob August 13, 2012

            Whaaaaat??!! You’re response is asinine! If you say he released the same number of records just like the other ones, why is he being questioned about it now? Why is there a hoopla about it now? I stand by what I see, he NEVER released more than a couple of his records, PERIOD!

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          9. onedonewong August 13, 2012

            WHY because Barak has made sure the state run media keeps it as an issue. John McCain in the last election only released 2 years as well as Kerry who only released 1year and Kennedy who refused to release any

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          10. ococoob August 14, 2012

            Why then respected journalists such as George Will and other prominant Republican politicians in his own party strongly suggest that he release more of his tax records?

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          11. Dmullins84 August 6, 2012

            Hey my friend Mortgage, wake up and smell the roses. No one is going to take your monies as long as you pay your debt, and Grand Mau does not have to worry she will not be pushed over the cliff. What I like about you Conservatives you can be smelled a mile away, all you like to do is scare the hell out of the people who will listen to you. I’m proud to say as a retired Military Man I don’t worry about the small things in life and especially not scared by people who knows little to nothing of what they are talking about, and believes everything they are told by their Politicians. Not to worry Sir, you will not be pushed into hell. They say hell is is nine times hotter than regular fire. So please Mr.President don’t send this Man to the gas chamber.

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          12. Joseph Hemphill August 6, 2012

            you are nothing but a GOTP bootlicker spreading your mis-information and lies

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          13. joyscarbo August 7, 2012

            NOPE!! You’re wrong….wrong…wrong…wrong!! He is hiding something by not doing what any other president hasn’t done: prove where his income(s) is derived!!! PROVE IT!!! Prove that he’s paid taxes and not trying to scam the government that he is attempting to rule over.
            A smoke screen is when repubs try to claim Obama’s birth certificate is phony- and that’s been conclusively proven to be wrong. Or trying to claim that Obama is a muslim, when that too has been proven to be wrong. (I could continue to regurgitate all the smoke screens that neo-cons have thrown out there. But they’ve all been confirmed as untruths.)

            Oh..and by the way…the Healthcare Reform Act does, indeed, have a mandate that comes with a monetary penalty for those who refuse to have healthcare. But the monetary penalty has absolutely NO TEETH- that is, no way to enforce payment of this penalty. Yeah, it says that there’s a $100 penalty, but the government shall not garnish or reduce wages, bank accounts or other sources of monies to satisfy this penalty. It also goes on to say that the government shall not place leins against property or belongings to satisfy the this penalty.

            Get your facts straight….go back and read….and show me where the enforcement of this $100 penalty. Prove it…you won’t find it.

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          14. Dave_dido August 7, 2012

            Yeah, Mortgage, Medicare has been killing people left and right for the past fifty years. Oh, I forgot, people on Medicare say they like their government plan. Oh, well, there goes that argument.
            As for the government going into your bank account and taking money, they’ve been doing that for a long time. When people owe back taxes the government, after several warnings, will go after your bank accounts. So far the sky hasn’t fallen in and the government has not taken money that was not due them.
            Like most Pres. Obama haters, your arguments are nothing but myths, lies and exaggerations.

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          15. Gammaanya August 7, 2012

            You must be Santorum,. ACA is benefiting the oldest the best, and yes we should have a limit how much doctors can charge, so they don’t rip off Medciare anymore. Get your head out of your party and concentrate on Issues and your COUNTRY.

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        2. Bunny August 6, 2012

          The more Romney delays showing his taxes , the more I distrust him. Just get it over with, and get on with other business.

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          1. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

            You should add the selection of Private Ryan to that list of distrust. This is a much bigger problem than tax returns. Romney just gave the election to Obama with this PALIN TWO choice. Ryan is toxic. His medicare stance is a death wish for the Romney campaign.

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        3. onedonewong August 12, 2012

          he’s released all the pertinent tax records just like previous presidents

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      2. David August 6, 2012

        Howard, why is it that President Obama is the only President or Presidential Candidate that has been asked to release his Birth Certificate, now his college record, etc. We did not ask that of Sen McCain who is obviously a US citizen even though he was born in Panama as the color of his skin and his “American” name tells us without a doubt that he is a US Citizen.

        Gov Romney refuses to follow precident in his tax returns as he is hiding stuff. Why not release them and get it over/ he is hiding stuff. No the solution to our problems are not in the Gov’s tax returns. All we will find out from them is how far removed he is from the rest of us. Simple adage for the super rich, tails he wins, heads he wins. His object is to protect those he knows, the super super rich.

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        1. Richard Holmes August 6, 2012

          bammy is a liar a thief a muslam socialist out to destroy america. Everything about this crap pile should be reviled so everyone will see he is not eligible to be in the office he holds, or this country for that matter.

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          1. LVSUNSHINE August 6, 2012

            Oh My Richard, You are really showing your intelligence. NOT!

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          2. Elisabeth Gordon August 6, 2012

            …and you Sir are a racist imbecile

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          3. Joseph Hemphill August 6, 2012

            to quote Bugs Bunny…. ” What a Maroon “

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          4. joyscarbo August 7, 2012

            And Mitty is a LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE. Mitty just needs to give up the tax returns that he’s filed in the past 5-10 years!!! That will get repubes exactly what they want….to make a Dem look like a LIAR!! He won’t do it…..WATCH!!!!!

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        2. phantomoftheopera August 6, 2012

          It’s interesting to hear the outcry when the left acts like the right. How long did Obama have to put up with the birther ridiculousness? What’s the old saying–what’s good for the goose is good for the gander? Guess they don’t like being ganders!!

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      3. joujou228 August 6, 2012

        “I’m not a crook” said Nixon. Do repblicans want another Nixon? Mitt Romney is a liar. He lied in 2002 when he ran for Governor, he lied before, he needs to put-up or shut-up in his word!

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      4. Russ Capron August 6, 2012

        Obama “criminal regime”? Spoken like a true rethug teabagger! President Obama is doing an EXTREMELY commendable job in view of the mess left to him by the bush/cheney debacle.

        All that arrogant bas#@rd romney has to do is release his tax returns if he wants to prove Harry Reid is saying anything untoward.

        Obama received scholarships and was probably an honor student with some typical college hi-jinks, which he has NEVER tried to hide! His passport is undoubted more up-to-date than most and why on earth would YOU or anyone else need to see his Social Security records?

        The problems of this country may not stem from romney’s tax returns but they certainly DO stem from the actions of the rich and greedy, and if that scumbag gets installed in the White House (he won’t be elected but the rethugs have NO hestitations about STEALING the election through rigged machinery and corrupt SCOTUS decisions) things will be much worse for the regualr people. It will push people over the edge and a revolutionary war will be the next step.

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        1. Elisabeth Gordon August 6, 2012

          Russ – you have not overstated the utter destruction that will occur in this country if GOD forbid Rmoney is elected….it is extremely evident the the GOP hates Obama more than they love their homeland….Romney SCARES me to death and anyone that doesn’t get that is in for a VERY big surprise…

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          1. Bunny August 6, 2012

            I have never been so scared about an Election ! Bush did scare me after the Republicans stole the election in 2000, but this SCARES me MORE ! ! !

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      5. Dmullins84 August 6, 2012

        Hey there Howard my Man how do you know it’s no accident what he spewed out, and how do you know they are lies. You know as little as I do about it and the best thing for you and I both to do is shut the hell up and wait for the facts to come out. If I was a betting Man I would be willing to bet there are lots of problems with Mr. Mitt Romney’s Taxes over the years. The IRS should open them up and Validate them one way or the other for the sake of the Tax Payers. I’ve been Audited twice in my life time and it’s no big deal unless you have something to hide. I guess it’s all in who’s Ox is being gored. That’s the way you Republicans are you can do no wrong.

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      6. Joan Maurer August 6, 2012

        It is not common practice for a candidate to release college records, pass port records ( those records are known by State Department officials under several administrations) and Social Security records (WHY would you want these?) ; IT IS common practice for multiply years of tax records to be released. I know everything I need to know about President Obama’s student days. He was admitted to Harvard Law School, was editor of The Harvard Law Review, and grduated with high honors (3.5+ GPA). I find it very disturbing that you question how President Obama paid for college. I know from public records all I need to about that – the President had scholarships, student loans, help from his family and a job. That is the way most people lucky enough to be admitted to Harvard, but no sliver spoon pay for college.

        In oder for Senator Reid ‘s assertion to be deemed untruthful or slanderous – Candidate Romney would have to release 10 years of tax records. Did you even read the post you are commenting on? Sanator Reid has repeated his source’s assertions in venues where he is not protected from prosecution for slander.

        Nobody in this article or post has asserted that this country’s problems are the result of candidate Romney’s tax records. What Can Be asserted, by me, is that Romney’s tax records will reveal that far from being the solution to our economic woes he is part of the problem. We have a stagnant economy – Romney has millions in banks outside the US. We have a huge defecit that needs to be paid down – Romney has paid a 13.9% tax rate on millions of investment income and wants to pay less than that.

        One of the problems is that people who have reaped great benefit and wealth from this great nation – do not want to help regrow it. Building and repairing roads and bridges, improving schools and other public buildings, upgrades to our energy grid, all this could be accomplishds to Everyones benefit if we had the will, leadership and tax revenues.

        Because Romney has no solution or plan to do any of the things that need doing (his tax plan would add to the defecit) He Is Part Of The Problem.

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        1. Dmullins84 August 6, 2012

          Now, as far as I can tell It’s looking more likely every day that Mr. Romney is running on the Republican Ticket to take the President’s job. I know very little about this Man other than he’s a big time flip flopper and will grab credit from the jaws of a lion if he thinks it will benefit him. It’s also been said he has real problems with the truth, and speaks only for the Rich and Famous with deep pockets.

          I believe if Romney is elected he will degrade the middle working class people’s style of living for years to come. The poor and Middle class people in this country will continue to suffer more and more with limited job availability, and reduction in pay. People, when you step into the voting booth come November Make sure you are fully aware of his beliefs and planed policies before casting your vote. Don’t listen to all this Hog Wash from Romney’s Co hearts. He’s already stated a lot of programs supporting the Working Class, and Poor will be done away with. He also stated Raising tax on the rich to help take care of some of these shortfalls is off the table. So now, do you need to be reminded on where the short fall will come from, I think not. You know it will come out of the Middle Working Class, and the poor working class people’s hide.

          In the event Mitt Romney should be elected as our next President I will support him with the things I believe in and above all treat him with respect as my President until we can vote him out of office. Some of these same Radical believers and followers’, with a number of them living off the Government will flock to the polls like lamb’s to slaughter voting lock step for this man, only because their Man of the Claw, and Republican surrogates tells them it’s the right thing to do. The majority of these voters will listen to these people and take their word as gospel without checking out the facts. I’ve learned over my 83-year life span the largest number of liars in this country is the Preachers, Lawyer’s, and Politicians, but maybe not necessarily in this order. Even some of the Republican strategist are starting to believe they may have lost their way. You will find these people stay deeply involved in Politics and generally flock together at most all the Political gatherings. Most of these people will not do an honest day’s work if their life depended upon it. These same Liars actually prey on, and live off the fruits of the Middle Class and the poor tax payers in this country. Look out people when you go to the polls to vote, you may get everything but what you thought you were voting for. There’s a snake laying in the weeds waiting to strike.

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          1. Gammaanya August 7, 2012

            AMEN.

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      7. Ibsyboy August 6, 2012

        Tit for tat does not a good argument make. It’s childish; show me yours and I’ll show you mine. What we have here is an Elitist move on Romney’s part. His wealth has provided him with a life of privilege, and he thinks that privilege extends into running for the Highest Office in the land, well it doesn’t. The sheer arrogance displayed by the Tax Return Sham, displays a side of the man which increases my distrust of him as the Top Executive of the USA. He is not aware of how average Americans live, how or why would he care if he became President. The last silver spooned kid was loyal to his clan, why not this guy. I distrust obscene wealth in public office, responsible for the public trust. He dispassionately out sourced jobs, which are never coming back to the USA. His company is currently moving jobs to China. Freeport, IL a profitable company, Sensata technologies has fired it’s employees to move the Jobs to China. Embarrassing the employees by making them train their Chinese replacements. Out sourcing is unpatriotic. Companies like Bain, and their owners (Romney) are un-American in their pursuit of Profit Taking. Those jobs belong here, not in Communist China. This behavior is worst than Socialism. It’s killing the middle and working classes of Ameirca. I don’t trust Profit Takers. And anyone who does; I have a bridge to sell you.

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      8. Larry Yocum August 6, 2012

        Tell me why it’s malicious slander? Is wanting to get to the bottom of an issue that should be a public record ( he is after all running for President of the US of A ) something that is wrong? Methinks he (Mitt the Twit) protests too much.

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      9. 1concernedsenior August 6, 2012

        howard, If you trust mitt (sounds like a dogs’ name) so much BUY A USED CAR FROM HIM!! Besides our beloved President has executive priviledge! Oh, by the way I WANT PEOPLE TO START USING THE WORD PRESIDENT ->BEFORE THE NAME OBAMA !!

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      10. geaaronson August 6, 2012

        Actually Howard, public persons can not sue for slander as easily as the rest of us. That is how Anne Coulter gets away with the garbage that spews out of her mouth. Before she visited Canada last year, Canadian authorities warned her not to make the slanderous remarks about public officials that she was accustomed to here in the US.
        So for your information, it is not that he is making those statements on the Senate floor but that public persons, ie. people who search their fame in the public domain, can not sue. They are fair game for any comments made by private or public citizens. Get your facts straight and then you might have a thread of credulity.

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      11. RobBar August 6, 2012

        The problem is Romeny’s tax returns as it is with so many rich and wealthy people sending their money overseas to hide from paying their taxes. Get your head out of the sand!!! I think the “Black” man has proved enough. All we want to see are tax returns….eye for an eye! Don’t bring up other things to cover up a crooked millionaires dealings…

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      12. Wilbur Moore August 6, 2012

        Coming froma state that is full of thieves like Florida, it easy to see why you stand with Romney! The president records are sealed stupid,because of people like you. Every President records are sealed you dumb ass!!!!

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      13. Jonboy August 6, 2012

        This country’s faults are and were made by rich people giving out loans to persons who could not possibly pay it then they reposessed the home and are keeping them writing cash payment losses off on income tax and even getting bailouts from both parties . FUnny where are those reposessed houses. sitting in the hip pocket of those that wrote the notes Waiting for real estate to make its comback then going to flood the market with them and make tons more cash all at the cost of the middle income/ low income workers. all the while Not paying a dime on the Interest or there Income because they lost cash now payments.

        For some reason this country lets you guess how much your going to make at an aggressive level and if you dont make that much You can write it off as a business loss. HOW riduculous. and
        Yes if the 1% paid their fair share of taxes this county would be a hell of a lot better than where its at now.

        P.S. your missing the whole point his tax recored are relevant to prove he made money shipping AMERICAN jobs out of the country at Bain and other place.

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      14. darkagesbegin August 6, 2012

        and they don’t stem from Obama’s birth certificate or social security number, either. If you want to talk about false arguments and red herrings, look no further than the big money spenders supporting the Republican party.

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      15. Gerald Hoey August 6, 2012

        Uh, actually Harry reid made the charges in an interview with the Huffington Post. He later repeated them on the floor of the senate. So if the statements are libelous then the Mittster can sue. Of course then he would have to produce the tax returns to prove his case. Don’t hold your breath for that one. As to the other garbage in your post, has Mitt released his college records? Taht would be a big no. Same for the other stuff. I think you don’t want the returns released for the same reason I do want them released. We both think there is something in there so awful it will sink his campaign.

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        1. joyscarbo August 7, 2012

          Ahhhhh!! But Mittens could only sue Mr. Reid if his “Bain informant” was wrong about him. That means Mitty must come up with the Good Stuff….and the we’ll all get to see what kind of wacky crap is in theo tax returns.

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          1. karenc August 7, 2012

            Actually, Reid would be ok even if the source were wrong. All Reid claimed was that his source told him that. As long as there was a source and he said that, Reid told did not lie.

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      16. Anthony McDaniel August 6, 2012

        Howard “you are an idiot” would be malicious slander. What Reid said was not slander at all. One of the most fundamental privileges in this country during an election season is to GET TO KNOW whom it is that wants to lead this country through a vetting process (ie; releasing tax returns). When you take away the public’s right to see what a candidate is about via legal documentation you reduce the public’s awareness to a “take my word for it” mentality.

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      17. Joseph Hemphill August 6, 2012

        the problems of this country stem from policies and politics of the rich manipulating their way to even greater ill gotten gains all the while sanctimoniously thumbing their collective noses at the middle class.

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      18. Ibsyboy August 14, 2012

        Now I was with you on the tax returns, because you are right, it’s a political tactic on the part of Obama’s team to define Romney. But then you go to Regime, Criminal, If Reid said it anywhere else he would not hof had a problem, why say that when you know it’s wrong. It’s no more slanderous than any of the mud tossed at Obama from the private sector. As you just did with and unsubstantiated use of Regime and Criminal.

        This is not a grade school recess period. I’ll show you mine if you show me yours. Romney gave McCain 23 years of returns to be considered for VP, and for the most powerful job in America, and the world. He says F**k You to the American voters, who are trying to decide if this guy is legit.

        What do you expect to see from Obama’s passport and SS records? I don’t expect to see anything from Romney’s returns, it’s just the principle of the thing. Presidents before him have released more returns than one.

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    4. Richard Holmes August 6, 2012

      bammyboy hasn’t shown all his papers ana was never vetted. He has a lot to hide from America.

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    5. Elisabeth Gordon August 6, 2012

      I think there are many reasons he is not releasing the returns, not the least of which is that then his church would know that he HAS NOT been paying 10% tithing….if he loses his credibility with the Mormon church, as he has lost ALL credibility with any thinking, rational human being, then he has no audience left. He craves attention almost as much as he craves money.

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    6. Glenn Hassig August 6, 2012

      I wonder if we should ask for an IQ score as well. Because if he thinks saying “I paid a lot of taxes” is a good enough answer I have to question his intelligence.

      He really is out of touch with the people that is clear

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    7. William M. Doherty Sr. August 6, 2012

      Mit has been making some of his tax returns public. Obama still has’t made the information asked for by the “Vetting” committie available yet.

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      1. Dave_dido August 7, 2012

        Exactly who is the “vetting” committee?

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    8. sigrid28 August 6, 2012

      The “victim of vicious attacks” seems to be Harry Reid, not Mitt Romney. I just witnessed a Fox News scroll running, ironically, under the story of another eruption of gun violence. The Fox News scroll accused Harry Reid of being a former heroin addict, one-time prisoner, and a tax cheat, while giving no attribution for the remark.

      First, the irony of right-wing hate lies scrolling under the story of a White Supremacist, neo-Nazi gunning down defenseless Sikhs during preparation for morning worship should not go unnoticed. It is a proverb in video: hate lies have consequences.

      Second, I wish there were some immediate remedy, for those who are falsely accused and for those who die because of right-wing extremists who accept these dangerous fabrications as whole cloth.

      Perhaps there is a long-term though by no means ideal remedy. Harry Reid could bring a defamation of character suit against Fox News, even if any of this garbage were true, based on the scroll showing no attribution whatsoever. Fox is responsible for the content of its news programming. Another advantage of bringing suit, the network’s deep pockets are ripe for the harvesting. There might be a virtue in saddling un-civil, right-wing propagandists with years of civil litigation and legal costs. As for their liberal victims, legal wrangles ought not to be one of the liabilities of public service, but they should not be avoided in the case of slander, libel, and dangerous speech inciting violence.

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    9. onedonewong August 7, 2012

      Have you seen Joe Biteme’s and his income from the taxpayers for the SS using a guest cottage in Del?/

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    10. David August 11, 2012

      Romney has already released the tax records required “like most presidential candidates do”. Asking for more is ridiculous, petty and unjustified.

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    11. onedonewong August 12, 2012

      Romney has released his tax returns just like other candidates have. When will Barak release his college records which EVERY president and candidate has done??

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  2. widollar August 6, 2012

    Mitt Romney is not worthy of becoming Commander In Chief. He is far too secretive and now believes he does not have to answer to anyone. Well, Mr. Romney the American public just might disagree with your position! With his constant changing on most issues, it is difficult to find out just where he stands on the important issues. He is now viewed as a person who you simply cannot trust.

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    1. montanabill August 6, 2012

      You are aghast at thinking Romney is ‘far too secretive’, and yet, Obama keeps far more secrets. You don’t know where Romney stands, but yet I’ll bet you trust Obama, who (on the record) says all kinds of contradictory stuff and his actions are usually far from his spoken word. Maybe just a tad hypocrisy?

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      1. Dianes4babies August 6, 2012

        There has never been a more secretive candidate running for president than Romney! He refuses to commit or state his beliefs on any single issue…refuses! When asked about his opinion, his only response has been “that’s not part of my campaign”! So then what the heck is part of his campaign? If it is the economy, which “seems” to be what he is running on, but yet, once again, refuses to tell us what the heck his plan is! It has been quite obvious what President Obama stands for, and he certainly does not flip flop from one day to the other! There is NO comparison between the two men!

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        1. montanabill August 6, 2012

          I will direct your attention to campaign speeches of a certain Senator Obama in 2008. They are on the record, in case you have forgotten.

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          1. Blake Faulkner August 6, 2012

            I was much more impressed with Barack Obama’s open opposition as an Illinois state senator (1997-2004) to the Bush administration’s WMD-hyped decision to begin the Iraq War. That was a courageous position to take back in those years with the events of 9/11 still so painfully fresh. And the frustration at not getting Osama bin Laden in Tora Bora so widely felt…and politically disturbing. Many Americans back then were led to believe by the neocon war hawks that Saddam Hussein was allied with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda…when the truth was just the opposite…U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton (D. NY) voted for the Iraq War to avoid being seen as unsupportive of the Commander-In-Chief. Most of the ‘lib’rul’ media gave Bush a pass on that decision as well.

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          2. montanabill August 6, 2012

            It was interesting that he was able to reach a conclusion with the little information that would have been available to a state senator. I would have to conclude that he was simply anti-war and had little else to base it on.

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          3. metrognome3830 August 6, 2012

            I have to give you a lot of credit, Bill. Really. Your views are nearly totally meaningless, yet you keep hammering away with them. That’s real dedication. Keep the faith Bill.

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      2. BDD1951 August 6, 2012

        Like what????

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        1. montanabill August 6, 2012

          They don’t usually let you put web site addresses here, but Google: ‘Obama contradictions list’.

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          1. BDD1951 August 6, 2012

            In the meantime be sure and Google Romney’s, too.!!!!!!

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          2. montanabill August 6, 2012

            I have. So they are both lying politicians. The real question is which one is likely to get the economy moving again bringing jobs back. We know one can’t and the other one might.

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      3. metrognome3830 August 6, 2012

        Bill, the very fact that you so strongly defend Romney would be enough to make me very suspicious of him. Obama “says all kinds of contradictory stuff?” How does that differentiate him in any way from Mitt Romney?

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        1. montanabill August 7, 2012

          It doesn’t. I would even defend Obama against the kind of sleazy attack perpetrated by Harry Reid. The biggest difference is what the future will be. We have had nearly 4 years of Obama, who’s very ego caused him to brashly claim that he would solve the economic problems within 2 years or a least by the end of his first term. As we have seen, neither he nor his advisers have the knowledge or experience to even slow down the sinking ship. In fact, they are sinking it faster.
          Maybe Romney can’t stop the bleeding either, but I know that business has a lot of confidence in him and just that confidence will be enough for them to starting investing and building again. Without that happening, America will become a second-rate country with a very large poor dependent class, a very rich class and a government ruling class.

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          1. metrognome3830 August 7, 2012

            And what help has the Republican congress been Bill. None at all. They just fold their arms across their chests and say no to everything. They ignorantly sign a “No New Taxes” pledge for Grover Norquist, even though the taxes they are refusing to even discuss are not new. Just re-imposed taxes that they have had temporarily reduced. In return for that, where are the jobs? There is no president that can create jobs, Bill. So while our patriotic business moguls hide what may possibly be trillions of dollars offshore, your Republican friends cheer them on and still no jobs. The correct term for that, Bill, is blackmail. You are right that business has a lot of confidence in Romney. They are completely and justifiably confident that the day he steps into office, they will get everything they want. And the rest of us will get nothing or less.

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          2. montanabill August 8, 2012

            Excuse me! They have passed 30 bills and given them to the Senate. Harry Reid is so afraid some of his Democrat Senators might actually become bipartisan that he refuses to even let them be debated much less come up for a vote. He is the man of ‘NO’.
            They haven’t reimposed a single tax. Only Obama has actually imposed new taxes, mostly on the middle class (Obamacare).
            I guess using the worlds ‘mogul’ and ‘off-shore accounts’ somehow allows you to justify your thinking, but over 3,000,000 Americans belong to the demonized 1% and darn few of them have off-shore accounts and they pay an average tax rate of 24% while the next level (the rest that pay taxes) average 5%. You can’t even prove that off-shore accounts are used for anything but legitimate business purposes.
            There is one thing for sure if Obama is re-elected. You will get something. It will either be unemployment, or when that runs out, some other form of welfare until China decides to stop loaning us money. But it won’t be a job. When business determines that it is safe to invest in growth again, they will need plenty of good employees. That’s when the middle class will stop being hammered.

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          3. metrognome3830 August 8, 2012

            Bill, I don’t know where you get your figures, but you are usually several miles off the mark. But be that as it may, if the polls aren’t as wide of the mark as you generally are, we will have Mitt Romney as president and we will then see how the economy improves for the middle class. Just a word of advice, Bill. Don’t try holding your breath until you see that improvement. Then we can compare the differences between Obama and Romney. It shouldn’t take long. However, if the polls are as wrong as you are, Obama will get re-elected and by 2014 we will all be under a Socialist dictatorship and we won’t be able to express any opinions. So continue on while you still can, Bill.

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          4. montanabill August 8, 2012

            I don’t expect a socialist dictatorship, just more of fascist government where more of the rule of law is selectively ignored and there is more business control by central government, a country continuing in severe decline, a very large poor class dependent even more dependent on government, a rich class though not as large as today’s, and a growing government class, more agencies and bureaucrats creating law through regulations. We have seen the trend now for 3 1/2 years, do you expect it be different under a second Obama term? The debt will continue to soar as government continues to borrow to pay the dependents until a wall is hit, like Greece, and social unrest (more and worse occupiers) starts raging because people are getting their goodies. We have so far escaped the wrath of inflation because of the newly printed money, but that demon is still there and will appear eventually.
            I am reminded of a line from one of Jeff Foxworth’s routines, “If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A Democrat wonders who is going to take care of him.”

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          5. metrognome3830 August 8, 2012

            Bill, all of that didn’t happen in 31/2 years. It has been slowly progressing for at least a dozen years, or more. Do I expect it to get better? No. I hope for it to get better but I am prepared for it to get worse. Do you expect it to get better if Mitt Romney is president? My reaction to that possibility is still the same. As for Jeff Foxworthy, he is a funny guy, I like him. But what’s not funny is the polarization of the two parties. The Republicans co-opted by the Tea Party radicals, pulling to the right, the Democrats being pulled left by the more radical left. The casualty here is the Center. That’s where the middle-class lives, Bill and we are not being represented by much of anyone at this point.

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          6. montanabill August 8, 2012

            You are right about it not happening in 3 1/2 years, but it has certainly picked up steam over the last 5 1/2. Romney certainly wasn’t my first choice for President, but given the choices I don’t see where we have much of an option. Business believes Romney will, at least, roll back and slow down the pace of regulation (laws, not passed by vote), with a Republican controlled Congress eliminate Obamacare and get to work on a health care program that will actually reduce costs while providing some of the features that people like in Obamacare (but probably not keeping your kid on your insurance til 26). Even the hope that these things will happen will result in business coming out of it’s shell and starting the recovery.
            The debt has to be cut. I like the simple plan of eliminating all automatic or proposed increases and cutting all budgets 1% a year for a few years. Easier to swallow for everyone. The tax code needs tossed and a new, simpler code enacted. A new code should eliminate all complexity, pledges not to raise taxes, loopholes, targeted deductions, and broaden the tax base. Hopefully, one closer to a flat tax. Something has to be done for SS and Medicare. The President is starving SS with his so-called tax cut and those programs already have $120 trillion unfunded liability.
            The Democrats had a chance to propose solutions, but punted. Those proposed by Ryan have not been analyzed or discussed, just demonized. Demonizing probably won’t change with a change in control of Congress, but if they don’t start moving the country back to more individual responsibility, the tea party people will really move to the Libertarians leaving the Republican establishment floundering.

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          7. metrognome3830 August 8, 2012

            Social Security is a real sore spot for everyone. It is one of the biggest items on our debt list. But it got there because back when there was a surplus in Social Security funds, the government got the idea they could make themselves look good and balance the budget by just taking that money and leaving IOUs. I believe Lyndon Johnson was the first to authorize using Social Security funds for that purpose. Now, after “borrowing” all that money, they want us to settle for not getting repaid in full plus the interest. I think I will try that with my credit cards. I will just charge them up to the limit then get a law passed that says I only have to pay back part of it. There would still be a surplus of funds in Social Security if all the IOUs were repaid. I like the idea of simplifying the tax code. I think that needs to be done. I don’t think it can be a totally flat tax, but it can certainly be simplified. Our difference of opinion, Bill, lies in the fact that you have hope that a Republican president can change all this. I don’t believe that either side wants to change much of anything. Republicans want to preserve their tax cuts and increase taxes on the middle class. Democrats are prepared to let the Republicans keep their tax cuts and increase taxes on the middle class. Neither side represents those of us in the middle.

            I don’t buy into the theory that people have no individual responsibility. I believe that people are simply losing hope that anything will get better, no matter which party is in power. It may be wrong to give up hope, but it is much more understandable than believing that so many people just want to hang around and wait for government handouts. That’s an easy explanation, but it just doesn’t solve anything.

            As for Ryan’s proposals, who knows what they are. They change from time to time. It makes it difficult to analyze them. Ryan is no economic genius. He is just another self-serrving political hack.

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          8. montanabill August 8, 2012

            Earnst & Young just released an independent study in which they forecast that if the President’s ‘tax just the rich’ increase is passed, it will cost the economy an additional 700,000+ jobs. That’s because a lot of business owner (like me) are S-Corps or LLC’s and their business’ profits are taxed at their individual rates. Increasing their taxes reduces the money available to them to fund their own growth, use for investments (and most savings is used for investments), give to charity or simply just spend on things. All this wild sloganeering about ‘off-shore accounts’ or ‘zero taxes’ does not apply to the vast majority of the high income people.
            Exactly what middle class tax increases has Romney proposed? I have heard Obama’s team touting them, but Romney himself, says he does not intend to raise taxes on anybody.
            Ryan has published his proposal. It is in the public domain for review and comment. Regardless of the political chatter, Ryan knows his way around economics with a degree from Miami (Ohio) in economics and politics. He made it clear from the beginning that he did not expect everyone to agree with his plan, but without a published plan, there could never be a starting point.

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  3. Brad Jones August 6, 2012

    It makes you wonder what could be so damning that would have Romney choose to have all this speculation rather than reveal the truth.

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    1. BDD1951 August 6, 2012

      I personally think that those tax reurns will show that he was more involved with Bain Capitol than he will admit. Never the less, Senator Reid should not have made such a statement with being able to produce evidence.

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  4. chisolm August 6, 2012

    Senator Reid should not be making accusations about Mr. Romney from the Senate floor. If the senator wants to act as a surrogate for the President’s campaign he should do it from the gutter like the rest of the political hacks.

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    1. 12voltman1 August 6, 2012

      What about…….
      “You Lie”-sen Joe Wilson (R-SC)???

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      1. chisolm August 6, 2012

        Senator Wilson was chastised for his outburst and rightfully so. Senator Reid apparently gets a pass.

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  5. lmmd August 6, 2012

    ROMNEY SHOULD JUST FESS UP AND SHOW HIS RETURNS!

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  6. carolknows August 6, 2012

    romney..snake oil salesman..how many times does a person have to repeat the obvious?

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    1. 12voltman1 August 6, 2012

      No, Snake oil salesman have to have charm. Mittens has none.

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  7. Mark Curry August 6, 2012

    I dont know why everone is complaining about Harry Reids cooment on Mitts taxexs when its obvious. Romney robs from the poor and gives to himself. A Multi billionaire president??? NOT!!!!!!

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  8. Tom_D44 August 6, 2012

    Hey Joe Conawhatever, I have a great idea. How about we let the IRS look at Romney’s returns, for which they have all of them, and if they find something illegal they file charges against him? Then we won’t have to rely on speculation, and un-named sources and we can see if he is guilty of anything based on the facts. In fact that is their job to do anyway and I bet they have a pretty good system for flagging and prosecuting repeat tax offenders.

    And that legal doctrine that you reference applies to people who are defending themselves from charges being pressed – for crimes alleged by authorities. Last I remembered Romney was not charged with any wrongdoing so why does he have to comply with your legal doctrine if he is an innocent man? Are you pressing charges? Do you or the media have the authority to charge people with crimes? Do you have any evidence? Does Ried? And if so why are the proper authorities not involved? Oh wait, you have an undisclosed source and that’s ok because everyone else uses those too.

    Your, “everybody else uses un-named sources too” argument to defend Reid is pathetic and I can’t even believe I spent time reading this article.

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    1. drewsco August 6, 2012

      Nice try with that straw argument. No one is asserting that he did anything illegal, we’re simply accusing him of not paying any taxes during a ten year period. And yes, he may legally be entitled to deferring or diverting his income tax liability. So, the question you need to ask yourself is: IF he’s allowed to not pay taxes, then why doesn’t he simply say it and defend what he did……..hmmm yet we’re still waiting.

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      1. Tom_D44 August 6, 2012

        drewsco – accusing him based on what? Somebody’s wives, ex sister-in-law’s distant cousin said so? Come on buddy. In this country we don’t have to defend ourselves from every tom dick and harry that comes out and decides to slander us. And I seriously doubt that he paid NO taxes for 10 years. For a man with that income this is highly doubtful. But you keep buying into that little conspiracy your lefty friends keep feeding you.

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    2. Sweeeny August 6, 2012

      Not breaking the law is not the issue here. It is not breaking the law to cheat on your spouse or to be an alcoholic or an atheist or have an abortion but some people think it is important to reveal this type of thing – not to prosecute but to help them decide if the candidate has the characteristics of someone they would or would not vote for. If its not important to you, don’t worry about it, use other criteria to decide, but do allow those who think it is important for a good American to pay the taxes to have the information they require in order to decide.

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      1. Tom_D44 August 6, 2012

        Oh my god Sweeny. Thank you for making my point exactly. We do need to understand the character of these people we vote for and that is a great point.

        So then you must have absolutely no problems with the people who were outraged when Obama wouldn’t release his birth certificate for almost a year, or the college records that no one could find during the entire campaign and have still not been released. You must have been demanding to see those so that we would all understand the man that we were being asked to vote for. His associations, his writings, his influences, how he got into these schools and paid for them, whether he engaged in drugs – you know all of those things that identify a man’s character which you so eloquently show the importance of in your post.

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        1. Edsanjuan August 6, 2012

          Tom_D44: Your response to “Sweeny” was soo devastating that he decided that he had had enough “light” for one day …
          He is at present “licking his chops” just as all these BLIND Lefties will be licking theirs on November 6.

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          1. RUKIDENME August 7, 2012

            Hey, have u enlisted yet or paid back the $750,000 of other peoples money u lost in your failed business?

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          2. Edsanjuan August 7, 2012

            Ruki: So you are feeling masochistic today?
            OK, I’ll oblige:
            1) It wasn’t me; that was a letter to the Wall Street Journal (that’s a newspaper for people a little bit over your intellectual “level”);
            2) The concepts and bases of something called “entrepreneurship” elude you partially, and TOTALLY elude a community organizer guy who NEVER had to come up with a payroll in his “spread-the-wealth” life.
            3) This community organizer guy has been able to get a RECORD number of people on the public dole (and you and I know who “the public dole” is, my friend)
            4) The record for “other people’s money lost in a failed business” actually belongs to that community organizer’s sojourn into a “business” called …. Solyndra ….
            Stay tuned, Ruki …

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          3. RUKIDENME August 7, 2012

            Wow-Masochistic, Over my Intellectual Level, Entrepreneurship elude me partially and totally elude the President…. Wow, you have a very high opinion of yourself and low opinion of the President and myself. I like the company I am in. You sir have delusions of grandeur. The Presidents ACA can help you with those demons. Have u enlisted yet?

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  9. JimMorici August 6, 2012

    Come on Mitt. Be open with the American people. Release your returns for the last 15 years. Your accountant can do it with a point and a click. Simple. Let the truth do away with all this speculation. Show what you paid. What you deposited into foreign accounts, what you sheltered from income taxes and what meager residual income you scrapped by on.

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  10. montanabill August 6, 2012

    This paragon of virtue is the biggest hack in Congress. He is totally afraid to let the Senate debate or vote for a single bill from the House for fear that a bipartisan vote might happen and force the President to make a decision. At least, Boehner lets Senate bills be heard and voted. I thought is was hard to be a bigger sleazeball than Pelosi (“we need to pass it to find out what’s in it”), but Harry has proved he is up to it.

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    1. ladyj August 6, 2012

      Only thing that Boehner ever did was vote umteen times on replealing Obama Care. This country will not be able to survive unless both House, senate, and the President can agree on anything. Right now nothing will get done until after the election period. If Romney get in well then things will get done because the Republicans will have what they wanted and they will work tooth and nail to get laws passed that they want that is to repeal OBama Care, but if Obama get back in, it will be the same thing,, “THEIR WAY OR NO WAY”. They will not work together to get things done. That is their MO.

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      1. montanabill August 6, 2012

        So, let the Democrat Senate have a vote on repeal. If it fails, it will be done. There are 30 House passed bills waiting Senate action. The Democrat controlled Senate can always vote them down and since they haven’t been doing anything anyway, why not, at least, let those bills come before the Senate. There is only one reason why Harry won’t let that happen: some of them might be passed which would force the President to either let them become law or veto them. And since he has a very hard time making decisions, Harry doesn’t want anything to embarrass him. Same reason he hasn’t forced his group to come up with a budget.

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    2. drewsco August 6, 2012

      Straw argument

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      1. montanabill August 6, 2012

        Let’s see…if Boehner doesn’t bring up Senate passed bills, it is because the Republicans are the ‘party of NO’, but when Harry does it, it is simply being sensible. Is that about the way you see it?

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    3. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

      My goodness, MB — here all this time I thought you were just a greedy (albeit magical) businessman. Your latest posts just sound like another right-wing hack.

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      1. montanabill August 6, 2012

        I always get a chuckle out of your attacks my career, but I usually like to ask questions when I see hypocritical attacks. I notice you didn’t address them.

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        1. WhutHeSaid August 6, 2012

          Well, when you start talking like a Koch Brothers lackey, a chuckle is about all the questions are worth. But let me see — hmm…. Obama’s transcript could potentially prove that a) Obama was/wasn’t still black while in college, b) Obama was a secret Muslim Kenyan Socialist and checked the Secret Muslim Kenyan Socialist box on his application, c ) Obama once slid to a 3.0 in Economics… I give up, what would you possibly hope to prove? Romney’s problem goes right to the heart of this year’s election — economic and tax policies versus tax breaks for those who have been making out like bandits for 30 years.

          Either your questions about Obama’s college transcripts are a feeble attempt to change the subject or they are a subtle nod to the nutty birther crowd — which is it?

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          1. montanabill August 6, 2012

            In other words, you don’t know why he won’t release them either.

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  11. Bruce August 6, 2012

    Reid is correct Mitts a tax cheaten lying double talkin candidate who’s still not understanding that one can’t win the presidentcy on just being white and saying nothing.
    He won the governorship that way, lying about taxes double talkin and famously shifting the blame of his problem to his opponent. Mitt doesn’t want the office of the presidentcy just the trophy. What a joke of a candidate and the GOP knows its, I can only imagine the close door Romney critique by the GOP brass..

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  12. Christopher T Drake August 6, 2012

    All Mitt has to do is produce his IRS tax form. WHY, WHY is he not doing it???
    What makes him so different and special???

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  13. Dianes4babies August 6, 2012

    Then Romney should not make such statements as he pays a lot of taxes without evidence!

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  14. dellmartin August 6, 2012

    Mitt Romney is used to being the boss, where he doesn’t have to answer to anyone. He feigns outrage that anyone dares to question his word. Nobody is asking him to do anything that hasn’t been asked of every presidential candidate in modern history. Very easy for him to clear this up and make Reid look like a fool, but he’s not doing it. Why? By releasing it, he knows he has more to lose than by hiding it. Reid is applying the pressure, and rightly so.

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  15. Fern Woodfork August 6, 2012

    Missing Tax Returns!! Reid Haven’t Gone Too Far Let Romney Put Up Those Tax Returns!!!

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  16. Vasant Desai August 6, 2012

    Well, if Romney has nothing to hide, and is a good loyal , honest American businessman why can’t he file his tax returns and show it to the whole world ? Til then any one, can cast shadows of doubt on his honesty and true character – only then can he claim to be a president.

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  17. Fern Woodfork August 6, 2012

    No Envy Here Just No Kissing Or Sucking Rich Men Butts!!! Everybody Not Trying To Keep Up With The Rich Some Of Us Are Happy Without Piles Of Money That We Will Never Spend In Our Lifetime!!!! When You Got A Great Job Make Lots Of Money And Got Good Investments I Have No Need For Envy!!!

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  18. drewsco August 6, 2012

    Mitt Romney is making a disingenuous challenge to Senator Reid. He is challenging Harry Reid to put up or shut up. But what if Mr. Reid accepts his offer under the condition that he releases his tax returns.

    Do we really believe that Mitt Romney would then release his tax returns if Harry Reid reveals his source? No, Mitt Romney would simply dismiss the accusation and attack the credibility of the person who accused him of not paying any taxes during those years.

    In my view, there must something quite damning about what’s in his taxe returns, and the American public needs to know.

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  19. Mimi2kool August 6, 2012

    What does he have to hide? I suspect he just does not want for the public to know just how how his income actually is. He keeps trying to play himself off as a regular guy, but we all know that is not the case.

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  20. old_blu August 6, 2012

    “The ‘Missing Evidence’” is Romney’s tax records.

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  21. Marilyn Furrie August 6, 2012

    it would seem mitt is between a rock and a hard place. Either he lets the rumors control the situation or he rebutts them by publishing his tax returns. Sounds like it is a lose lose situation to we since he adamantly refuses to show the tax returns we have to assume the rumors are TRUE.

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    1. Michael August 6, 2012

      Obviously Romney has something BIG to hide — not just normal rich-man tax planning.

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  22. ladyj August 6, 2012

    Put up or shut up, well Reid has the right to do it. He is forcing Romney hand it turning over his tax returns As they say Romney has to come up with them, or their will be a shadow over his head. And besides, once you put your hat into the ring as the saying goes, you are fair game. Every things will come out, stuff that you don’t want to come out will come out.

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  23. hepj August 6, 2012

    Obama keeps his past records locked up. I hear it is because he had the LOWEST scores on records for the schools, and profs were “helping” his grades. Probable Harry eid’s reliable source.

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    1. jarheadgene August 6, 2012

      WHO CARES????????

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      1. Edsanjuan August 6, 2012

        Jarredhead: You ask “Who Cares?” because you Lefties can certainly “dish it out” but you can NOT take it .

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        1. jarheadgene August 6, 2012

          REALLY…..the who cares is about Obamas school records….WHO CARES….is that going to send us to war in Iran ….or is that going to pay a fair share in taxes….or flip flop on stances or what what what….go listen to FAUX news if you don’t want to learn anything.

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        2. RUKIDENME August 7, 2012

          You would know….

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  24. lovedog4u2 August 6, 2012

    I have always though that Romney was lying and i think that if he gets in to office that every one but the rich people will be in realy bad shape for we will be paying taxes for them for if they dont half to pay who will I will tell you the ones that can least aford that who. The smal people like me and you that who.

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  25. ladyj August 6, 2012

    Now you know why the Republicans did not have good candidates for President, everyone has skeleton in their families, which they want to keep quiet.

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  26. Fingerlakes54 August 6, 2012

    I find this uproar almost laughable. Maybe Reid went a little too far–but he did state it was possible the info could be wrong because Reid had no way to verify it. Soo—–Did Republicans ever have any real evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii?? That being the case –I guess Republicans now know Democrats can use the same type of tactics that the right always uses. Besides–what does Romney have to hide??

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  27. Fingerlakes54 August 6, 2012

    I am beginning to wonder if the Republicans will allow Romney to be the candidate. Romney could be dumped at the Republican Convention. His holding back on his tax returns has hurt him badly.

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  28. Stephen Reid August 6, 2012

    SENATOR REID SHOULD STEP DOWN NOW OF LIEING AND SLANDER TO ROMNEY AND GET AWAY WITH IT REID YOU NEED TO STEP DOWN AND RESIGN!!! SINCE WHEN A PRESIDENT HAVE TO TURN IN 12 TAXE RETURN, IN 48 YEARS HAVE GONE BY WITH 9 PRESIDENT SEVERING AND ONLY 2 TAXE RETURN GIVEN! WHEN IS REID AND PELOSI
    AND OBAMA THE KING OR GOD DEMAND 12 TAXE RETURN! IS THIS POINTING A ARROW
    TOWARD SOMETHING BIGGER?

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    1. Michael August 6, 2012

      Another rabid Republican ranter. Quick, quick, bring the vaccine.

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  29. turnipgreens August 6, 2012

    Tell Mitt to put up or shut up. I think that when things stink, there is something rotten. This stinks. Why can’t or won’t Mitt simply turn over his tax returns? Is the information that damning? If it is, then why did he vet himself as the best candidate for President of the US? Will money trump truth this year? It certainly has in the past, but the American public is just too savvy to let it happen this time. I predict a landslide for Obama.

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  30. AlexanderKebang August 6, 2012

    Tax returns are a matter of honest evidences of truthful presidential and other political office seeking candidates. There should be no arguements about this. Mitt has to publicly present all documents to clear himself that he had paid all taxes as required by the law and the issue is over.To be the president of United States is to be the prsident of the world and there should be doubts about integrity of such a candidate.

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  31. Stephen Reid August 6, 2012

    I AM GOING TO KEEP ASKING FOR REID RESIGNATIO UNTIL SOMETHING IS DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. jarheadgene August 6, 2012

      And WE THE PEOPLE……or as Ann Romney says, “you people” will keep asking for WILLARD’s Tax Returns. I thought of something what if he shredded them like he did the records for TAX money used to save the Olympics….or when he bought all the Hard Drives used during his tenure as Governor……

      WOW… he sort of reminds me of another guy who finally had to release tapes to Congress, and guess what…..18 crucial minutes, were “accidently” erased. Do any of you GOP people remember him? Do we really need another one like him.

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  32. AlexanderKebang August 6, 2012

    Tax returns are a matter of honest evidences of truthful presidential and other political office seeking candidates. There should be no arguements about this. Mitt has to publicly present all documents to clear himself that he had paid all taxes as required by the law and the issue is over.To be the president of United States is to be the prsident of the world and there should be doubts about integrity of such a candidate

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  33. easterbunny39 August 6, 2012

    I think that Romney is just an example of the GREEDY CEOs who have doubled their salaries many times over the last 20 years while not increasing the money they pay their workers. If the GREEDY CEOs would pay their workers a living wage, the workers would be paying more taxes to support the governments and also have more money to spend. This increased spending would increase the demand and our economy world improve greatly. The GREEDY CEOs think that they were responsible for the money their company makes and that their workers didn’t contribute anything…. They are just TOO GREEDY.

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  34. AlexanderKebang August 6, 2012

    Mitt you would as US President would like all americans to be focus and discipline. Show us that you are nore discipline to lead us by releasing all your tax returns nd paid acoordingly to enkindle our faith in your candidacy.

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  35. nhgal628 August 6, 2012

    I agree with Mr. Reid. If there is nothing to hide then show the tax returns!! SIMPLE…………

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  36. old_blu August 6, 2012

    I think all the republicans had to do is come up with a decent and honest candidate, and they failed.

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    1. Edsanjuan August 6, 2012

      old_blu: The ones that will fail (next month) to come up with a decent and honest candidate are the DemocRats .

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      1. RUKIDENME August 7, 2012

        President Obama is decent and honest, that is why you detest him!

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  37. nomaster August 6, 2012

    All of it can be solved so easily if Willard the Rat man would quit stalling and put his tax returns front and forward. If he feels so bad about it, he could be so highly vindicated by the truth and Reid would then have to eat his word. That is all it takes so come along be truthful Willard the Rat man and show your tax returns and shine. He has been using his bag of rats and tricks to hide them ever since the time he ran for the senate against Ted Kennedy and also for governer of Massachusetts.

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  38. hilandar1000 August 6, 2012

    I’ve got to say this statement by Reid is nothing short of BRILLIANT!!! After enduring all the made up stories the GOP has circulated about the President, the shoe is now on the other foot, and all that comes to mind is, “It’s about time we showed them how it feels”. It didn’t make any difference to the GOP rumor mill whether the stories about the president were actually true or not. When faced with the accusation that the president is Muslim, not Christian, they had to know that there is no way of “proving” what is in one’s heart (not that it would have made any difference anyway since we have freedom of religion in the US). But that certainly didn’t stop the GOP from encouraging that lie to be repeated by anyone willing to repeat it — in order to take any advantage of the fear that it might invoke in some people. When accused of not being a “true” citizen of the United States, the president DID provide the proof, but that was not good enough for the GOP. The GOP still gives a wink and a nod to the people who are ignorant enough to keep the lie going. At least Harry has been gentlemanly enough to have chosen a topic that is pertinent and could be proven — or disproven with the release of Romney’s tax returns. I say, “Go for it, Harry — we’ve been waiting for this far too long!”

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  39. ivory69690 August 6, 2012

    Indeed, several of the news outlets now barking at Reid have suffered their own episodes of scandalous embarrassment due to the exposure of invented sources and quotes // why do ppl. rag on Reid so much ? thy want to call him a lier and all that bull crap . well the antyi-christ romney . is he any less a lier is saying nothing not a lie ? he has his own closet filled with bull crap himself . is a flip flop a lie ? hmmmm interesting thought . is saying one thing and days later (or how ever long ) saying the compleatly different thing the next time not a lie from the first time one says something ? lets talk about lie,s the GOP keep saying when thy get a chance , telling the Pres. that he,s not hearing the ppl. of the country or giveing them what thy want . dose the 98% of the ppl. realy want the richest 2% to pay less taxes ? dose the 98% truly want to pay more ? just so the greedy bastards can get more money back from all there taxs breaks and loop holes. hmmmm again for some reason to me that isnt what 98% of the ppl. makeing less and less want to pay more so the rich can pocket the money . you know if the 2% had any brains thy would of taken the money thy saved in taxes and put it to making jobs . its a win win for them to have done that . thy would make money on the jobs thy made and still get the tax breaks . and with the country having those jobs then we wouldnt be hurting so much looking for jobs . the greedy bastards want the breaks and sit on there money . them of all ppl. should understand that thy could be making money if thy made jobs . and thy would make even more money being greedy as thy are by trying to make more loop holes. and that would draw the news off of them making so much in breaks . the country working thy would be in the clear and use the trickly down bull crap . but back to the anti-christ romney . all could be cleared up real fast and easy if he would only do what his dear old dad did and show 12 yrs of taxs . and for him not doing that the country should stop raging on Reid or any one else that talks about the anti-christ,s not showing his taxs . heck if there nothingh to hide then showing his taxes for 12 yrs. and every thing is in line would get him all kinds of brownie points . what that evil POS will p[rob. do is wait till the end maybe after thje voteing starts and come out with his form of comic book taxes. that way when he waits till the end with his fake bull crap taxes no one will have time to check them and he hopes he can have ppl. belive him them just like its said the ANTI-CHRIST will do is fool ppl. to belive him before he ends the world . but in romney,s terms end the USA shgow 12 years of taxes like daddy did ooo great one ANTI-CHRIST

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  40. Richard Larson August 6, 2012

    As I have said on other sites; The very wealthy can hire entire accounting and legal staffs to make certain that they not pay one more cent of taxes, to whomever they may have been owed. This may result in very little, or no taxes being paid/owed for several years in a row, depending on the permissible, and possibly questionable schemes employed. The problem for Romney is that the American people like to see that their politicians pay at least a reasonable amount each year regardless of the circumstances. I fully expect that the President and his wife, probably pay taxes they could legally avoid because in their eyes, it is far better to sacrifice that little bit than to pay it and not have to be explaining. Romney obviously considers this to be unacceptable to him and his wife, who probably demands maximum income possible from her investments and sees no point in paying any taxes and fees she can avoid.

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  41. ivory69690 August 6, 2012

    and (Fern Woodfork) one can be Envy Of The Rich . but only of the riuch that take there riches and use it to help the other ppl. that dont have it so good . and thats not putting a buck in the plate at church . but helping more ppl. and not giveing the buck to some one else to break it up and do the work of striching it out . the rich should do the work then selfs to help . for most ppl. i feel thy would feel better doing the work and knowing and seeing the ones thy help . i guess that might not work for the 2% greedy bastards of the world . buty one never knows there might still be hope deep under the ice cold in the riches hearts . its a dream maybe ? but some times dreams can come true not as much as one would like but who knows

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  42. K3Citizen August 6, 2012

    Romney should prove him wrong by showing him the same tax returns that he showed McCain. Think about why McCain is one of the speakers at the RNC. He is the only person, besides Romney and his accountants, to see Flip’s tax records. They offered McCain a speaking spot if he told people that Romney didn’t have any smoking gun in the returns. How come McCain didn’t pick Romney over Palin? The answer is simple, Romney had baggage that was even worse than a woman who only had served half of her elected position. Romney wasn’t good enough then and he’s not good enough this time. Bush, Palin, and Cheney weren’t allowed to speak at the RNC because Romney is trying to win.

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  43. Anthony America August 6, 2012

    Why do the very wealthy feel they do not have to respond to the will of the people
    Romney is running for the president of the U S; not the PTA
    Romney is more of the 1% take over of the Government

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  44. nana4gj August 6, 2012

    So, Reid is lying because he won’t reveal his source? And Romney also lies because he won’t reveal his tax records, a chronic issue with Romney who flails around with every campaign in which he engages and uses lame reasons for why he won’t. If there is an issue of credibility here, the issue is with Romney’s credibility, which he could clarify so easily by releasing his tax records and taking the hit for whatever is in them. We already know he takes thousands of dollars of write offs for his dressage horse, a “hobby” for his wife in which he deducts business expenses….The burden of truth here lies with Romney. Too bad all of this “outrage” was not, is not, expressed with their GOP Reps in Congress making “McCarthyism allegations of slander against other members of Congress and of aides to Cabinet Secretaries.

    It matters not to me whether or not I see those tax records. I already see an established pattern throughout Romney’s history of lies, manipulation, and distortion from him in order to secure whatever personal ambition he desires and the fact that he is not taking responsibility for any of it is just learned behavior from his early adolescence, from which he learned nothing but that he could get by with it, of mean and abusive “pranks”. Those tax records are probably a testament to all of the shortcuts, evasions, write offs, and other tricks that skirt the surface of legality, to which he feels he is entitled, and another example of how he has never done anything for his country in his life. That’s not his “schtick”; it’s personal engrandizement.

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  45. Nicklous August 6, 2012

    Every American Voter wants to see at least ten years of Robme’s tax returns–nothing less ten years and we won’t have these uncouth discussions on what Mr. Reid is saying. I believe Mr. Reid. That is until Robme shows all of his returns. Robme is a very greedy, caulous, and please believe me I am not jealous of him, I just want to see his returns, he on the same level of a dope dealer of a prostitute or Gadaffi, these people are criminals and Robme is a criminal just like
    the Mafia who refuses to pay taxes–they are just leeches of the government, just like welfare recipients. All Mormons are leeches.

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  46. Anthony America August 6, 2012

    A Carl Rove tatic answer a question with another Question
    2% of the people in the U S control 54% of the money
    In 1984 7% controled 23% of the money
    Morons still don’t get it

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  47. Elsa August 6, 2012

    Romney may think because 14% of his income comes to millions of dollars he is covered because it is “lots of money.” However, when you make the comparison to someone with a family of four earning 60,000 dollars a year who is paying 25 % of it in taxes, who do you think the inequity in our tax code hurt the most? And, how fair is it to give a larger burden to those who have less?
    No one denies Romney any money he has earn honestly, no one expects him not to take advantage of the tax code. What they do expect is that he be honest and open about it and show some understanding that there is quiet a difference between how his tax burden affects him and how it affects people who make an average income. Making comments like “the information will be used against me” or “you” people know enough, is defensive and plain sounds like he is hiding something. In addition, his policies are not better because they continue to provide big tax break for the very rich and to drain the Middle Class while cutting programs for the poorest around us. Come on Mitt – even your father released a decade worth of his tax returns when he wanted to be President; if you can’t stand the scrutiny of running for President how are you going to deal with being President? BTW, admonishing Harry Reid for making accusations without releasing his source and in the same sentence claiming the White House is the source of his information shows what a hypocrite you are. Where is your source of that information?

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  48. Kathy C. August 6, 2012

    Obama had to show his birth record , then Mitt should show his tax returns!! When in doubt, print it out!!!!

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  49. pizzmoe August 6, 2012

    I am not at all outraged by what Harry Reid has done. In fact, it’s one of the best things he’s done since being the Senate majority leader.

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    1. Michael August 6, 2012

      “Pizzmoe” writes: “I am not at all outraged by what Harry Reid has done”. Nor am I. The Tea Party crazies are having heart attacks because a DEMOCRAT is playing hardball. A DEMOCRAT !! They think only Karl Rove, the Koch Brothers and the like are allowed by God to play hardball.

      I say, “give ’em hell, Harry”. And if they have heart attacks or apoplexy, tough.

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  50. claudem August 6, 2012

    oboma IS elected president,willard is a wannabe,so for next four years get used to it he accademic enough and ten time more qualified than the guy he replaced what a bumbass

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  51. nellskie64 August 6, 2012

    there’s noway a business man can become president simply because his way of thinking …and that is strictly about money and if he’s rich that makes it worst …cause his focus is on how to make more for self and if that means stepping on the man or people on the bottom …than that’s what he’ll do hey people i will give you a task …the next speeches you here from from either candidate…. just close you eyes and do a passion rating and tell me which one sounds more sincere than the other ….my view is romney is a fake and he is not for the people as a whole if this man becomes president we are all in trouble believe that…..the recovery has to move slow …if we recover to fast it will not last ….slow money is the best money

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  52. jmc73 August 6, 2012

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he paid no taxes. He has his money in protected overseas accounts. He always manages to appear shocked when asked about issues he doesn’t want to talk about. When the debates roll around here are two questions I would like the moderator to ask Romney….For years you and the Republicans have been saying that tax cuts for the rich need to continue because “they are job creators” and that will get us out of this mess. Where are the jobs they created? They still have their tax breaks but are sitting on the money. Apparently “trickle down” economics doesn’t work after all. Could it be because of the “pledge” they all have taken and the House and Senate’s pledge to make Obama a one term president. The second question is….If you don’t get Mit elected do you plan to CONTINUE stone-walling everything you can to continue the gridlock as you have done throughout most of Obama’s presidency?

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  53. claudem August 6, 2012

    thats why you live up there with ol cheny,be carefull outside you may have to appoligize to him caouse he shot u in the face,

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  54. Gene Touchet August 6, 2012

    Mitt says, “I paid taxes.” Don’t we all? Telephone taxes; gas taxes; sales taxes. What a shame we have the ability to parse sentences, eh Mitts?

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  55. claudem August 6, 2012

    dont be so stupid,

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  56. claudem August 6, 2012

    somethings you just cant explain to dumbass republicans they watch too much fake new and will never know ethics or the what ethics are!!

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  57. oldibtgdy August 6, 2012

    So, the echo-chamber whines on. Thank you Harry. It’s about damned time.

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  58. claudem August 6, 2012

    yes republicans always looking for some distraction or if none invent one!!

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  59. claudem August 6, 2012

    yes contributed large sum to morman church and they gave him some crappy degree.

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  60. oldibtgdy August 6, 2012

    Romney’s old tax returns will show he lied to become the governor of massachusetts — at the very least. And, he’s trying to tell us what’s in his tax returns — without showing them. “Trust me”? really? Give me a freaking break. The guy’s a weasel. What do you guys say a lot? “Do unto others — “? Well, at least we’ve seen the president’s birth certificate. How ’bout some returns, baby.

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  61. oldibtgdy August 6, 2012

    no, but y’know, you didn’t mention any of the other 2 bazillion examples of Republicans doing as bad or worse with this president. Boner’s a cutie when it comes to doing the “I don’t know for sure, but it could be true —” schtick. Lousy racist.

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  62. claudem August 6, 2012

    sucessful only if one considers cheating sucess,a lot of folks made lots of money some at gun point over dead bodies,like willard on his mission to paris while his fellow americans died in viet nam jungles,or your buddy cheny who had better things to do,than support america in time of need.

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  63. greghilbert August 6, 2012

    I’m hostile to Romney, but disapprove of Reid’s assertion even if he is in fact repeating verbatim what a “credible person” told him. As a politician Reid’s motives are suspect to a degree that would not apply to a CNN. Further, it’s not credible that Romney paid NO taxes for TEN years. Suppose he paid no taxes some years and shockingly low taxes other years. If he now releases a another return showing he paid ANY tax, Romney becomes the truth-teller and Reid the liar. And that diverts attention from what we already know: Romney is a blood-sucking oligarch who used every should-be-illegal loophole, dodge, and wealth-welfare device (including low taxes on capital gains) that mostly Repubs but also Dems have built into tax law for all oligarchs, themselves and Romney included. We do not live in a democracy. The majority of Americans are not represented.
    The great transfer of wealth from the many to the few continues unabated.

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  64. claudem August 6, 2012

    then you havent been listening,all republicans are quick to send our troops to harms way but never know how to get them out..you folks need ti listen and observe not just their spin…

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  65. JS August 6, 2012

    Good for Harry Reid. If its not true, he’s just doing what the Republicans and FOX News do every day. Lie. Whether its the birther issue, or Obama’s so called Moslem connection, or Obama spending 200 million dollars a day to fly to India, or citizen’s being thrown in jail for not paying for ObamaCare, etc,etc, etc. When recently confronted by Bill Mayer about the lies that O’Reilly tells on his show, O’Reilly replied, I never said I was telling the truth. My show is not based on fact. Its based on opinions. Therefore, I can say whatever I want.

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  66. all mitt has to do is release the tax returns and the world will be at Peace.

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  67. Cinda Cole Newlin August 6, 2012

    If Romney has nothing to hide, he would be happy to submit his tax returns–just as all other candidates have done! If he believes we the people have no business knowing about his tax returns–what else does he feel we don’t need to know?

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  68. sheilab2 August 6, 2012

    There are two plausible reasons why he won’t release the returns: 1) He paid no taxes 2) He fudged his supposed 10% tithe to the Moron church.

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  69. Gammaanya August 6, 2012

    This is just my opinion as a CPA why he don’t want to show. He claims that he was with Bain till 1999 but he was signing papers still for the next 3-4 yrs. He bankrupted 8 Co in 9 yrs most of from 2000 -2003 period. Now if he have good CPA and good bankrupcy lawyers there is a way to wipeout your debt without paying any taxes. I did not see his taxes in full so I don’t know, but I know that COD in most cases is taxable, depends on what/when Chapter/Title bankrupcy was filed then the income is exempt from taxation. Under Title 11 in bankrupcy proceedings and COD income is produced (COD- Cancelation of debt) there is a special from 1099-C that they have to fill out. It depends now what Title. Law gives us Chapter 7,9,11,12,13. So if he filed Title 11 bankrupcy and COD occurs in that time any income is totally exempt from federal taxation. So if they purchase a corp. that was failing, they borrow money (incl. their own) to resurect the co. (lay off, restructure cutting benefits rehiring at lower rate etc) and in th mean time they pay themselves well, and when the they amass more debt than the assets they become insolvent,then before COD occurs (filing) ANY INCOME they receive is exempt from taxation. Usually it is Chapter 7 – complete bankrupcy or complete liquidation. Courts order trustees to liquidate all assets to pay debts. If there is any left over money – the difference is subject to taxation. I am sure that they did not have any excess money to pay taxes or very little..
    Just one Corp. Dade Behring they made 365 M and bankrupted them in 2002. Like I said, I did not see entire taxes, but if he is evading to show his taxes, most likely he did not pay any or very little. So from 1999 to 2003 he was still responsible for any of these Corp. in absentia.Most people and corp. that file for bankrupcies their debt falls on taxpayers to pay. Most Corp. strip their business of anything of value, pocket the money and file for COD then they don’t pay any taxes. Whatever is left and sold to pay debts it will go to primary lender then trickle down to 2nd …..
    Very clever and unfortunate for our country if he ever become POTUS.

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    1. Michael August 6, 2012

      This comment is informed; VERY well-reasoned, and chilling. Considering the way Romney pillaged and destroyed American companies at Bain & Company, it is VERY likely this is how he made sure to benefit from it through tax deductions.

      Hideous; vile; and very likely to be true.

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  70. PitiPat August 6, 2012

    If Mitt wants to prove Mr. Reid a liar, all he has to do is produce the 10 missing years of tax returns. He needs to “put up or shut up!” Life’s a bitch when you are unable to control all news media as you have been able to with FOX!

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  71. PGA August 6, 2012

    Mitt has proven himself to be nothing but sound bites and attacks, no substance. Although the economy is in a drought, the American people are not willing to cast a vote for mystery Romney.

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  72. Charles August 6, 2012

    I don’t care if Romney didn’t pay any federal income taxes for one or more years, and/or if he participated in the IRS amnesty program regarding his foreign holdings, if he complied with tax law. However, I do care if Romney contributed to the lobbying efforts to create these loopholes in the federal income tax law which allowed him to exploit in order to avoid taxation. I also care to know, from his tax returns from 1999, 2000, 2001, & 2002, what his salary and investment income was from Bain Capital during the time he disavowed Bain Capital actions in vulture capitalism and in the outsourcing of American jobs overseas to the detriment of American workers. While the Bain SEC records reflect that Romney was in several management capacities with Bain during his stint with the Olympics, Romney has stated that he had nothing to do with the management of Bain during that period of 1999 through 2002. The Public is entitled to the determination of the veracity of his claim before the election. We need a President that we can trust to represent both investors and the American worker.

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  73. Abigail00 August 6, 2012

    Gee I wish there was a way we could know if Reid is a big fat liar………….. Hey……Romney could just show us all how many millions he has paid in taxes……. Why didn’t Romney think of that?

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  74. Mortgage August 6, 2012

    He has turned in all required tax returns. Do you really think that the IRS as we know it would let him get by without paying taxes for 10 years. If they want to REQUIRE more tax retuns for candidates, then change the guidelines. Demos are only wanting to see if they can find something to pounce on since they dont have a record to run on. Why is no one askig how the president become a millionaire over the last three years when he was only a Senator before and has not had a regular job ever. I have read that he is making over $72,000 a month over his salary. How do you do that? If it is legal then so be it but you need to look at both sides.

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    1. Kevin G. August 6, 2012

      Would the IRS as we know it let him get by without paying taxes…. YES. The tax code is written by the rich in order to avoid taxes. The IRS is notorious for caving to rich tax lawyers. You are beyond naive!

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  75. Richard Holmes August 6, 2012

    ried is a liar just like bammyboy. All crap with no evidence to back it up.
    All these liberturds need to shut up

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    1. Kevin G. August 6, 2012

      Reid is telling the truth: He said a unnamed source told him Mitt paid no taxes. He said he didn’t know if the assertion was true or not. Where is he lying? Mitt needs to show us the taxes and then all discussion of what a lying tax avoider he is will stop.

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  76. Bigspender August 6, 2012

    This controversy will not likely have much impact on the election. Those who think Romney is lying (when is he not?) aren’t planning to vote for him, and those who don’t think he should have to produce income tax returns and plan to vote for him regardless simply don’t care what those returns would reveal. Maybe there is that rare voter still on the fence who can be swayed by Romney’s refusal to come clean but I’ll bet they are very few in number.

    This issue is important because Romney is unable to create more confusion with his usual stump speeches while he’s denying that he didn’t pay taxes. Lots and lots of taxes.

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  77. LVSUNSHINE August 6, 2012

    It is time Romney come clean with his dirty laundry – Maybe he could send that with his money to off shore banks to be cleaned. That’s an idea.

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  78. PGA August 6, 2012

    Will someone who is voting for Romney tell me what is his plan to make America better? I know his plan for the rich. What about everybody else?

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  79. It’s a reflexion of how Romoney would govern. He would help the wealthy hide their incomes to become even more wealthy while we low wage earners must pay for the “safety nets” and expenses of the country. He has already said so (and why he still has support of the low income earners is due to poor information from the main street media). He would let your loved ones die rather than approve universal healthcare etc.. So the problem isn’t that people are jealous which is what most wealthy people say. It’s about how you percieve the flow of money and who fairly should pay more in taxes. A president should NOT have off shore bank accounts and should be ultra transparant with his financial deeds.

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  80. rosebartok August 6, 2012

    Is there a suggestion that a Congessperson would outright lie to the American Public? Was he
    mistaken for a Republican?

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  81. howa4x August 6, 2012

    All Mitt has to do to end this is show his taxes. The right wing has always used un named sources to blast democrats now the shoe is on the left foot. Like Rikey used to say ” Mitt you got some splanning to do

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