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Reprinted with permission from AlterNet.

Morning Joe co-host Joe Scarborough made a surprising announcement on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on Tuesday: The former Florida Republican Congressman is giving his party the boot.

“You changed your mind about Donald Trump. Why haven’t other Republicans done the same?” Colbert asked, drawing on Scarborough’s lifelong allegiance to the GOP.

“I think it’s inexplicable,” Scarborough answered. “This is well before Donald Trump was elected president that my party has betrayed their core values.”

Scarborough supported Jeb Bush in the Republican primary and backed John Kasich once Bush dropped out. He claims he was never “pro-Trump”, much to the dismay of the president, who insisted in a tweetstorm that he no longer watches Scarborough’s morning show.

According to Scarborough, Republicans had “a thousand” reasons not to vote for their candidate, from Trump’s initial Muslim ban proposal, to his attack on Judge Gonzalo Curiel, to his feigning ignorance of David Duke and the KKK.

“Time and time and time again they turned the other way,” he lamented. “And they’re doing the same thing now. And it’s actually disgusting.”

“You have to ask yourself, what exactly is the Republican party willing to do?” Scarborough asked. “How far are they willing to go? How much of this country and our values are they willing to sell out?”

“But aren’t you a Republican?” Colbert wanted to know.

“I am a Republican,” admitted the Morning Joe host. “But I’m not going to be a Republican anymore. I’ve got to become an Independent.”

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  1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 12, 2017

    Poor Joe is in a bind and confused. And has been confused for decades it would appear.

    Joe complains about core values of the GOP being abandoned, so I decided to check the values. Not that the core values of the Democrats are by default any better or should serve as a model, but either Party, and any Party in between or on the fringe, is unacceptable as a sole model, given today’s complex social issues, and given the needs of a humanity that needs to move into a consciousness that sees the whole Earth as one country.

    To help realign our vision commensurate with our stage of human evolution, it is Baha’u’llah who in one concise and powerful statement issued the following—“The earth is but one country, and humankind its citizens”. Looking at the GOP’s values alone, we see a vast contradiction between what they value and what Baha’u’llah is summoning humankind to aspire to.

    —————————————————————————————————————–
    The Seven Core Social Values are found in the National Republican Platform
    http://www.GOP.com/2008Platform/Values.htm

    1. Sanctity of Human Life
    Faithful to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence, we assert
    the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn
    child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed.
    2. Protecting Traditional Marriage
    Because our children’s future is best preserved within the traditional
    understanding of marriage, we call for a constitutional amendment that fully
    protects marriage as a union of a man and a woman, so that judges cannot
    make other arrangements equivalent to it.
    3. Support the Right to Keep & Bear Arms
    We uphold the right of individual Americans to own and bear firearms, a right
    which predated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second
    Amendment.
    4. Safeguarding Religious Liberties
    Our Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion. We affirm every
    citizen’s right to apply religious values to public policy and the right of
    faith-based organizations to participate fully in public programs without
    renouncing their beliefs, removing religious objects or symbols, or becoming
    subject to government-imposed hiring practices. Forcing religious groups to
    abandon their beliefs as applied to their hiring practices is religious
    discrimination. We support the First Amendment right of freedom of
    association of the Boy Scouts of America and other service organizations
    whose values are under assault, and we call upon the Commonwealth of
    Massachusetts to reverse its policy of blacklisting religious groups which
    decline to arrange adoptions by same-sex couples. Respectful of our nation’s
    diversity in faith, we urge reasonable accommodation of religious beliefs in the
    private workplace.
    5. Ensuring Equal Treatment For All People
    We consider discrimination based on sex, race, age, religion, creed, disability,
    or national origin to be immoral, and we will strongly enforce anti-discrimination
    statutes based exclusively on these seven categories. We ask all to join us in
    rejecting the forces of hatred and bigotry and in denouncing all who practice or
    promote racism, anti-Semitism, ethnic prejudice, or religious intolerance.
    Precisely because we oppose discrimination, we reject preferences, quotas,
    and set-asides, whether in education or in corporate boardrooms. The
    government should not make contracts on this basis, and neither should
    corporations.
    6. Freedom of Speech & of the Press
    We support freedom of speech and freedom of the press and oppose attempts
    to violate or weaken those rights, such as reinstatement of the so-called
    Fairness Doctrine.
    7. Protecting Our National Symbols
    The symbol of our unity, to which we all pledge allegiance, is the flag. By
    whatever legislative method is most feasible, Old Glory should be given legal
    protection against desecration. We condemn decisions by activist judges to
    deny children the opportunity to say the Pledge of Allegiance in public school
    ——————————————————————————————————————

    These all sound lovely on paper, but when we look at how they fail in practice let’s examine each core value.

    1) First item speaks of sanctity of human life. With the healthcare fiasco, there is no such indication of sanctity. I presume that the GOP is primarily using this as a coded way of saying that only the fetus is what they mean. And once the fetus reaches adulthood, or for blacks and others even before that stage is reached, sanctity goes out the window.—-> CORE VALUE CONTRADICTION !!

    2) The issue of marriage is tricky because so much disagreement about what defines a marriage, and how to convey that in terms of current thoughts and trends unanticipated with clarity over 2000 years for the trends today. So, I’ll bypass that for now.—>TBD

    3) Supporting the right to keep and bear arms sounds like such a farce and antiquated notion into today’s world. Unless King George has risen from the grave, or Russia is planning on sending subs off the shores of New England to deploy Russian militia, I doubt if a submarine full of men and women would be expected to do anything against such a deployment.—->A CORE VALUE FARCE, and is childish and reminiscent of someone afraid of the dark, to say the least.

    4) “Safeguarding Religious Rights”. Well, this is all good if by Religion we mean a support and protection of all forms of worship that don’t infringe on the rights of others to move about freely and worship as they wish. And since the GOP has been associated often with groups that harbor anti-Muslim feelings, is often cited as inspiration to destroy mosques or to kill and/or harass Muslims, then we have another glaring contradiction. —>CORE VALUE FAILURE!!

    5) Ensuring equal treatment for all is another sore point, especially given the way the GOP is generally regarded by the black community. With the GOP’s heady support for draconian and harsh penalties against the most insignificant transgressions by black citizens, with the GOP’s heavy-handed decision to build a pipeline right through Native American living areas and desecrating sacred spaces, the GOP fails miserably once again. —> CORE VALUE FAILURE!!

    6) “Freedom of Speech and of the Press”—Well, the GOP is giving Trump carte blanche to transgress that value. As well, this seemingly well-meaning value has been abused by Ailes and FOX, not to mention numerous other outlets that hawk GOP ideology and who go so far as to abuse free speech by misusing it to smear, attack, and to foment fear and hate. In other words, an innocuous and nice concept has been turned into a weapon. —>CORE VALUE DISTORTED AND MADE A WEAPON!! (FAILURE)

    7) “Protecting our national symbols”—This is laughable and incredulous. This value is frivolous and nonsense unless you consider symbols to have some status of “God-Hood”. Assigning some sense of sacredness to symbols is not only infantile, but is a modern form of Idolatry—a violation of one of the 10 Commandments, and therefore opens the door for the polytheistic reverence we see towards stuff considered national symbols. This is a relic that is better left for ancient societies and for groups like the Nazis, ultra-nationalists, and Racialists to worship. —> A CHILDISH AND USELESS ADORATION, AND A CORE VALUE TO BE TRASHED IN THE BIN OF ANTIQUATED AND QUAINT NOTIONS.

    So, it would seem to me that the GOP, and I’m sure the Democrats as well to a great degree, need to reevaluate and come up with some new values that not only make sense, are relevant, but are in sync with the needs of a human civilization eager to move into its final stage of Evolution in which all humanity is seen as members of the same Human Family the world over, deserving of respect, and therefore seen as being sacred by virtue of simply being humans, regardless of whether they are a fetus or an elderly person, and anywhere in between and in whatever skin color and their Religion.

    THIS IS WHAT JOE AND THE REST OF US NEED TO CONSIDER

    Just idle ruminations of mine.

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    1. dbtheonly July 12, 2017

      Well put, though I’ll still stand for the core policies of the Democratic Party.

      A strong economy that works for all.
      Affordable health care for all.
      A military strong enough to protect the country. Used wisely and in cooperation with Allies.
      The right of a woman to control her body.
      Freedom of religion for all religions. (though there are tolerance limits here)
      Tolerance for all, regardless of differences.

      Not that this list is exclusive or in any particular order.

      What is an idle rumination to you is a matter of deep thought and discussion for the rest of us.

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 12, 2017

        I understand where you’re coming from. And at this juncture, one Party stands out in sharp contrast to the other, especially when it comes to respect for ALL human lives, for women, and for respect for all Religions.
        Of course, in both Parties, and in fringe groups, there are exceptions—good and bad ones.

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        1. dbtheonly July 13, 2017

          Absolutely,

          But when you’re dealing with humans; that’s what you get. There’s a range of ideas/opinions/behaviors. We’re not all alike. In fact, no two of us are alike.

          To the religious question.

          There is no limit on what one believes. Believe whatever and it’s fine with me.

          But there are, and ought to be, restrictions on religious practice. About 100+ years ago Canada addressed this issue with a large influx of Hindu Indians to the Western Provinces. Those Indians practiced child marriage, in some cases as young as 8 years old. They also practiced the “sutee”, which involved burning widows to death on the funeral pyres of their husbands. The Canadian Government decided that those practices were unacceptable. The Indians responded that these are deeply held religious practices. Government trumped religious practice. So also with Mormons and blatant racial discrimination in the USA. So also with Mormons and polygamy. So also with child marriage in those hold over Polygamous Mormon Branches. So also denying services offered to the public based on a religious refusal to treat with certain people. Again the list is not exclusive.

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          1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 13, 2017

            The incidents you cite that are regarded as “religious practice should make us all stop and think carefully about “Religion”.
            At one extreme we see people taking the notion of religion beyond the “norm”.
            And how does one determine the “norm”? Well, it should be clear to us that we can’t allow every Tom, Dick, and Harry determine “Norm”. Otherwise, one can cite any crack-pot fetish as a “religious practice”—even cannibalism. Among some Papuan New Guinea tribesmen there was the ritual of eating the brains of defeated enemy tribes in order to get the strength and courage which resided in the slain. Actually, it was the women and children who were given the “privilege” to eat the brains. Until researchers found out that a variant of Mad Cow disease was responsible for the slow agonizing deaths of so many of the women and children. Scientists later determined that molecular structures called “prions” were the cause of the deaths. This viral substance lives in infected cattle, goats, and sheep on the island which were part of the food source for the tribesmen.

            So, we need to rely less on folklore and myths, and turn to what the Reality of Religion teaches, as elaborated on by each of the “Major” Messengers sent to humanity—such as Zoroaster, Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, and now Baha’u’llah. These Luminaries define the standard by which stability and a disciplined approach to life consistent among all “believers” can be achieved. Other than a Standard, there is left a vacuum for helter skelter, anarchy, and opposing views leading to animosity and disagreements as to how to move forward, if each group insists on ethical codes that deviate from the Standard.

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          2. Beethoven July 14, 2017

            Can a business choose to refuse to serve certain people because their lifestyle is contrary to the business owner’s religion? The most prominent actual cases involving that question have been with bakeries (and a side issue in the case of Hobby Lobby of denying employees certain benefits that the owners of the business don’t agree with). But what if we apply their argument to other situations? Suppose a pharmacist refuses to sell prescription drugs to a person because that person is homosexual or an acknowledged atheist? Suppose an ambulance driver (or a policeman or fireman) refuses to provide service to a person because that person is a homosexual or an acknowledged atheist (or a Muslim)? Suppose a judge routinely imposes heavier jail sentences or fines on people because they are homosexuals or atheists or Muslims? Where do we draw the line?

            In my opinion, the only proper place to draw the line is to say that if a person is employed by a public agency or any branch of government, that person is under a duty to serve all members of the public, regardless of their sexual preference or lifestyle, and regardless of their religious beliefs, whatever they may be. And if a person applies for a business license, which is asking the government to allow that business to operate, that business owner should be required, as a condition of receiving the government license, to serve all members of the public, regardless of their sexual preference or lifestyle, and regardless of their religious beliefs, whatever they may be. And that business owner should not be allowed an exemption from providing benefits to their employees that other businesses are required to provide, whatever their religious beliefs.

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    2. Beethoven July 14, 2017

      I could give an opinion on every one of the values you listed, but I’ll just comment on a couple of them. First, the Republican Party has always expressed strong support for “the sanctity of marriage.” What they have meant by that is that marriage can be only between one man and one woman; no other combinations are acceptable. But they have always allowed that the marriage of one man and one woman could include dalliances on the side, at least by the man, if not also the woman, and that the marriage did not have to last “till death do us part,” but only till they were ready to move to another marriage, as long as it was between one man and one woman.

      Second, the Republican Party has always been a strong supporter of “safeguarding religious rights” (and until the past few decades so was the Democratic Party), but “safeguarding religious rights” has always (for the Republicans and, until recently, also for the Democrats) meant the religious rights of “Christians” (and also for Jews as long as they were more or less aligned with the “Christians”); it did not apply to religious rights of Muslims, Hindus, Native American religions, or atheists.

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      1. Independent1 July 15, 2017

        Some statistics that I think support your first paragraph:

        -22 of the 26 states with 10 or more people /1000 identifying as divorced are GOP-run states.
        Here’s the 26 states with the number/1,000 saying they’re
        divorced: AK-14; AL-13; AR-13;KY-13;OK-13;NV-12;ME-11;GA;11;TN-11;MS-11;TX-11;AZ-11;WV-11;MO-10;MT-10;NM-10;NC-10;IN-10;WY-10;VT-10;OR-10;CO-10;IA-10;KS-10;LA-10;UT-10.

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    3. idamag July 15, 2017

      I really think poor Joe is not confused anymore. Give him credit for being smart enough to bail out when most Republicans never get that smart.

      Reply
  2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 12, 2017

    1. Lower Taxes
    American’s cannot and will not continue to pay higher taxes. Even the current
    national, state and local taxes must be decreased to safeguard the financial
    health of our citizens and country.
    2. Smaller Government
    The growth of government must be stopped and reversed by the privatization
    or transitioning of government jobs back to the private sector. According to one
    of America’s top ten economist, the only major city in America that continues to
    show significant growth is Washington D.C. (February, 2010). Government
    growth must be stopped at all levels, national, state and local or we will never
    be able to lower taxes.
    3. Encourage The Growth of Business
    Business growth must be encouraged by all levels of government through the
    elimination of all unnecessary regulations that slow the growth of businesses,
    especially small businesses.
    The Seven Core Social Values are found in the National Republican Platform
    http://www.GOP.com/2008Platform/Values.htm
    1. Sanctity of Human Life
    Faithful to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence, we assert
    the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn
    child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed.
    2. Protecting Traditional Marriage
    Because our children’s future is best preserved within the traditional
    understanding of marriage, we call for a constitutional amendment that fully
    protects marriage as a union of a man and a woman, so that judges cannot
    make other arrangements equivalent to it.
    3. Support the Right to Keep & Bear Arms
    We uphold the right of individual Americans to own and bear firearms, a right
    which predated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second
    Amendment.
    4. Safeguarding Religious Liberties
    Our Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion. We affirm every
    citizen’s right to apply religious values to public policy and the right of
    faith-based organizations to participate fully in public programs without
    renouncing their beliefs, removing religious objects or symbols, or becoming
    subject to government-imposed hiring practices. Forcing religious groups to
    abandon their beliefs as applied to their hiring practices is religious
    discrimination. We support the First Amendment right of freedom of
    association of the Boy Scouts of America and other service organizations
    whose values are under assault, and we call upon the Commonwealth of
    Massachusetts to reverse its policy of blacklisting religious groups which
    decline to arrange adoptions by same-sex couples. Respectful of our nation’s
    diversity in faith, we urge reasonable accommodation of religious beliefs in the
    private workplace.
    5. Ensuring Equal Treatment For All People
    We consider discrimination based on sex, race, age, religion, creed, disability,
    or national origin to be immoral, and we will strongly enforce anti-discrimination
    statutes based exclusively on these seven categories. We ask all to join us in
    rejecting the forces of hatred and bigotry and in denouncing all who practice or
    promote racism, anti-Semitism, ethnic prejudice, or religious intolerance.
    Precisely because we oppose discrimination, we reject preferences, quotas,
    and set-asides, whether in education or in corporate boardrooms. The
    government should not make contracts on this basis, and neither should
    corporations.
    6. Freedom of Speech & of the Press
    We support freedom of speech and freedom of the press and oppose attempts
    to violate or weaken those rights, such as reinstatement of the so-called
    Fairness Doctrine.
    7. Protecting Our National Symbols
    The symbol of our unity, to which we all pledge allegiance, is the flag. By
    whatever legislative method is most feasible, Old Glory should be given legal
    protection against desecration. We condemn decisions by activist judges to
    deny children the opportunity to say the Pledge of Allegiance in public school

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  3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 12, 2017

    There are 3 other values of the GOP’s besides the previous 7 I listed earlier.
    They are: 1) Lower Taxes; 2) Smaller Government; 3) Supporting Business

    Just a cursory glance at these values presents obvious shortcomings and suggest a puerile value system which again is out of place in today’s world from many standpoints.

    1) Lower Taxes—Well, the GOP’ s notion of lower taxes has clearly been implemented to support the rich and upper middle class, while lower taxes has no impact on those who already are destitute. In other words—->A CORE VALUE INTENDED TO HELP THE RICH AND THEREFORE A SATANIC INEQUITY.
    (Besides, how does anyone expect to provide an infrastructure and services, without revenue from some form of payments into society”s coffers. Money doesn’t grow on trees, or can’t be printed willy-nilly when you want to without any currency backing).

    2) Smaller Government—Sounds good, but how small is small, and has anyone ever bothered to quantify that? Here’s a solution—Get rid of career politicians who’re just wasting space and drawing such handsome salaries to do what amounts to counting the hairs on a gnat’s abdomen and writing a code of policies related to such a measurement. —>ANOTHER HARE_BRAINED CORE VALUE WITHOUT ANY FORESIGHT

    3) Supporting Business–Business is good and necessary, so why does that have to mentioned as a core value? UNLESS—The real meaning behind this core principle is to help widen the disparity of income and privilege in society by favoring business as though it were a person that is as sacred as a human life. Or, as Mitt Romney opined—“Businesses are people”, and I suppose should be seen as a living, breathing life form, consisting of little CEO’s in booths controlling the movement of the “Business” as it walks down the street and consumes all in its path to profits for shareholders.
    —>A CORE VALUE WHICH FAVORS BRICK AND MORTAR OVER REAL PEOPLE

    More failure, and vapid core values.

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    1. Independent1 July 13, 2017

      Aaron, just a couple of amplifications on your thoughts.

      1) Lower taxes – as you point out, the problem here is that the GOP is willing to reduce taxes, run governments on the cheap, to the point of mediocrity such that more people are dying due to the mediocrity in a state’s police and fire protection; healthcare delivery system; maintenance of public resources like water, sewage disposal and on and on. There’s definitely a reason why the average age of people living in red states is 2-6 years less than in Dem run states and even in the longevity of people living in a number of 3rd world countries.

      2) When the GOP says ‘smaller government’, they don’t mean necessarily in numbers but rather in scope. Fact is, that our government today is about 330,000 workers smaller than when Reagan left office because while Reagan and the 2 Bushes together increased the number of workers by over 280,000; Carter, Clinton and Obama decreased it by over 380,000.

      Smaller government to the GOP means less departments – getting rid of government agencies they consider are hindering the ability of business owners (the wealthy peope) to make as much money as possible even if that endangers the lives of everyone in the nation – even those wealthy people making all that money. Which is why they’re trying now to trash the EPA, Energy Dept, Education Dept and more. It’s not making the body count smaller it’s reducing the departments that may create regulations that keep businesses from making maximum profits.

      3) As I think you pointed out, Republicans go to such an extreme in supporting the wealthy and businesses that they’re actually turning red states in terrible places in which to do business because people in red states have less money to spend and are on average far more broke than similar people in Dem run states.

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      1. idamag July 15, 2017

        Smaller government means, to them, the right for businesses to poison our air, our water, and our soil. It means the right to cheat workers by underpaying them and taking away their overtime. It means the rights of pharmaceuticals and insurance companies to use 45% of premiums for bonuses and CEO wages and the right to deny claims because of pre-existing conditions and to cap the amount of money any patient can get. It means the right of the media to lie and inflame hate. It means the right to tamper with voting rights. It means the right for speculators and the wealthy to pay less taxes. It means the right to get infrastructure funding from toll roads and toll bridges.

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  4. I of John July 13, 2017

    The GOP sold its soul and now goes to the lowest morals and the highest bidder. I look forward to a time when the grand old party is truly Grand again.

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  5. FireBaron July 14, 2017

    Being an “Old Fart”, I remember when Ronald Reagan was asked why he left the Democratic Party. Reagan’s answer was “I didn’t leave the party. The party left me.”

    One thing people forget, like the traditional Democratic Party, the traditional Republican Party was not a unified bloc. You had your Midwestern Conservatives, your Northeast and West Coast Progressives (dare we call them what they were – Liberal!), as well as a Libertarian wing, and the Western Conservatives. After Nixon’s 1968 victory, the GOP started to reach out to the Southern Conservative wing of the Democratic Party, and drew them into the fold. Eventually these Conservatives tipped the balance in the GOP essentially depriving the Progressives of a voice.

    Once Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America” (abandoned shortly after the 1994 congressional elections) Class came in, it pretty much nailed the coffin on the Progressive wing. In the 2008 election, Sarah Palin gave voice to the Reactionary wing, primarily Southern Conservatives who believed the Senator from Illinois did not “know his place” we had a new element of craziness, as every GOP candidate tried to outconservative his or her rivals to win the nomination.

    Now we have a party that makes the dysfunctional Democratic Party of the late 60s and early 70s look like an exemplar of cohesion.

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  6. Lynda Groom July 14, 2017

    Sounds like Joe is taking part in a little CYA. Maybe he will keep a few viewers. I can’t help but wonder what took so long? The problems with the party he now finds difficult have been clear for years, if not decades.

    Reply
  7. idamag July 15, 2017

    Joe Scarborough does not surprise me. What is disturbing is all those who do not have the integrity to bail out of a party that is so right, it is fascist.

    Reply

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